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I wish we targeted rich people with a lot more of things like these. Convince them clean air is more important for their health than the next Mediterranean car

I wish we targeted rich people with a lot more of things like these. Convince them clean air is more important for their health than the next Mediterranean carnivore diet and we might start getting the tech we need. They quickly get followed by the middle class pretending to be rich, then it becomes mass produced and available to the poor. I think the privacy aspects of automation would also be what the rich value. A servant who isn't around to clean your dishes is one less gossip.

082349872349872 6y ago
IIUC, for all that people explicitly complained about not being able to find good help anymore, "one less gossip", especially in the zero gossips[1] limit, was a strong implicit driver for household automation[2]. Phone for the fish knives, Norman As cook is a little unnerved [1] especially now that one can verify consumation via the 'gram instead of either doing so conspicously in public or relying upon the servant grapevine to spread the word. [2] this is a falsifiable hypothesis: it will be interesting to see how covid lockdown in india affects middle class household employment.
wlll 6y ago
> Mediterranean carnivore diet I'd be surprised if that was a thing. In my experience Mediterranean cooking traditionally revolves around fish, beans and vegetables.
- Cthulhu_ 6y ago
  Based purely on vacations and resorts, countries like Greece and Turkey have plenty of meat options.
  - wlll 6y ago
    I don't think that's what people mean by a "Mediterranean diet", vacations and resorts aren't really representative of a traditional diet, which is what I think people are referring to.
    - 082349872349872 6y ago
      The most common turkish[1] food around here is the "kebab shop" which is the equivalent of a Californian burrito joint and is definitely meat centric. (Compare "kofta") As for greek, gyros and moussaka are two counterexamples. [1] I've heard a story that Döner Kebap as served here was actually invented in Berlin, but that hasn't kept people with mediterranean complexions from asking me if I knew of any turkish food around and then being very happy when I gave them directions to the kebaberie. Edit: menu from random restaurant in Istanbul: https://www.sirvan-sofrasi.com/menu-restaurant/ https://www.sirvan-sofrasi.com/menu-restaurant/
      - wlll 6y ago
        Sure, now, but like with most of the world I suspect that the food most people ate traditionally was what they could grow because meat was too expensive for most people to afford most of the time and that's what they mean when they say "Med Diet", not what you can get now which is kofta and chips.
ryanlol 6y ago
> Convince them clean air is more important for their health than the next Mediterranean carnivore diet and we might start getting the tech we need. Rich people already have fancy air filters in their cars and homes, they spend several months a year breathing clean air in places like Courchevel and St Barts. In places like London they have special taxes to keep poor people and their nasty polluting cars away from the posh areas. Unless you’re going to convince them to wear masks, there’s probably not much tech can improve here.
- 082349872349872 6y ago
  > special taxes to keep poor people and their nasty polluting cars away Could be worse, we have places like Zermatt that have been mostly combustion-free for a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tLNa51VuAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tLNa51VuAE

082349872349872 6y ago

IIUC, for all that people explicitly complained about not being able to find good help anymore, "one less gossip", especially in the zero gossips[1] limit, was a strong implicit driver for household automation[2]. Phone for the fish knives, Norman As cook is a little unnerved [1] especially now that one can verify consumation via the 'gram instead of either doing so conspicously in public or relying upon the servant grapevine to spread the word. [2] this is a falsifiable hypothesis: it will be interesting to see how covid lockdown in india affects middle class household employment.

wlll 6y ago

> Mediterranean carnivore diet I'd be surprised if that was a thing. In my experience Mediterranean cooking traditionally revolves around fish, beans and vegetables.

Cthulhu_ 6y ago
Based purely on vacations and resorts, countries like Greece and Turkey have plenty of meat options.
- wlll 6y ago
  I don't think that's what people mean by a "Mediterranean diet", vacations and resorts aren't really representative of a traditional diet, which is what I think people are referring to.
  - 082349872349872 6y ago
    The most common turkish[1] food around here is the "kebab shop" which is the equivalent of a Californian burrito joint and is definitely meat centric. (Compare "kofta") As for greek, gyros and moussaka are two counterexamples. [1] I've heard a story that Döner Kebap as served here was actually invented in Berlin, but that hasn't kept people with mediterranean complexions from asking me if I knew of any turkish food around and then being very happy when I gave them directions to the kebaberie. Edit: menu from random restaurant in Istanbul: https://www.sirvan-sofrasi.com/menu-restaurant/ https://www.sirvan-sofrasi.com/menu-restaurant/
    - wlll 6y ago
      Sure, now, but like with most of the world I suspect that the food most people ate traditionally was what they could grow because meat was too expensive for most people to afford most of the time and that's what they mean when they say "Med Diet", not what you can get now which is kofta and chips.

ryanlol 6y ago

> Convince them clean air is more important for their health than the next Mediterranean carnivore diet and we might start getting the tech we need. Rich people already have fancy air filters in their cars and homes, they spend several months a year breathing clean air in places like Courchevel and St Barts. In places like London they have special taxes to keep poor people and their nasty polluting cars away from the posh areas. Unless you’re going to convince them to wear masks, there’s probably not much tech can improve here.

082349872349872 6y ago
> special taxes to keep poor people and their nasty polluting cars away Could be worse, we have places like Zermatt that have been mostly combustion-free for a while. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tLNa51VuAE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tLNa51VuAE