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>H1B visas are very important for foreign students in these fields particularly those hoping to pursue careers in academia. I don't care. It's not the US's job

by R0b0t1 6y ago

>H1B visas are very important for foreign students in these fields particularly those hoping to pursue careers in academia. I don't care. It's not the US's job to educate the world. Until someone helps me get into university again I don't give a rat's ass about foreign students coming in. Those students are typically in the higher earning income brackets for their countries.

swilliamsio 6y ago
Student visas are essentially free money for the countries that provide them: unversities charge them more; the students tend to be rich and spend a lot; a lot of students immediately return home and don't actually take any local jobs. There's no downsides.
- R0b0t1 6y ago
  There are limited seats. At the extreme end you have medical school, where foreign students likely are taking away a position from a capable citizen.
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thowaway23413 6y ago
Buddy, you gotta help yourself get into and pay for university. Why should a university give a "rat's ass" about you when a foreign student will pay more?
- R0b0t1 6y ago
  Exactly the rub then, isn't it? I got the token half off 200% markup while I watched my graduating HS class get nearly free rides. I had similar grades, but was mostly straight A (but in harder honors classes) and was white and male.
  - thowaway23413 6y ago
    The issue probably wasn't that you were white and male. The issue probably was your parents made enough to not qualify for extra financial aid. That sucks, and I empathize. I'm living it trying to get finaid for my kids private school. But, let's not blame immigrants for a broken system. If anything they aren't to blame because they didn't vote for it.
    - R0b0t1 6y ago
      The issue is many things, but what I listed is appropriate. All of the women in my class with my GPA got more money than I did, and all of the minorities (as few as they were) did as well. Two instances stand out to me: Someone 1/64th or less Native American getting scholarships for that, and a girl who just by accident ran into (literally) the rowing coach and was offered a scholarship on the spot.
- aksss 6y ago
  Or when they can use foreign students as a ridiculously cheaper labor pool.
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ravila4 6y ago
Sorry. I was going to type something rude. The thing is, by "educating the world", the world educates us. We need to do a better job at helping students like you pay for college, but this does not mean that we close our doors to everyone else.
throwaway93480 6y ago
> It's not the US's job to educate the world. From the rest of the world: thank christ for that.
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by R0b0t1 6y ago

swilliamsio 6y ago

Student visas are essentially free money for the countries that provide them: unversities charge them more; the students tend to be rich and spend a lot; a lot of students immediately return home and don't actually take any local jobs. There's no downsides.

R0b0t1 6y ago
There are limited seats. At the extreme end you have medical school, where foreign students likely are taking away a position from a capable citizen.

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thowaway23413 6y ago

Buddy, you gotta help yourself get into and pay for university. Why should a university give a "rat's ass" about you when a foreign student will pay more?

R0b0t1 6y ago
Exactly the rub then, isn't it? I got the token half off 200% markup while I watched my graduating HS class get nearly free rides. I had similar grades, but was mostly straight A (but in harder honors classes) and was white and male.
- thowaway23413 6y ago
  The issue probably wasn't that you were white and male. The issue probably was your parents made enough to not qualify for extra financial aid. That sucks, and I empathize. I'm living it trying to get finaid for my kids private school. But, let's not blame immigrants for a broken system. If anything they aren't to blame because they didn't vote for it.
  - R0b0t1 6y ago
    The issue is many things, but what I listed is appropriate. All of the women in my class with my GPA got more money than I did, and all of the minorities (as few as they were) did as well. Two instances stand out to me: Someone 1/64th or less Native American getting scholarships for that, and a girl who just by accident ran into (literally) the rowing coach and was offered a scholarship on the spot.
aksss 6y ago
Or when they can use foreign students as a ridiculously cheaper labor pool.

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ravila4 6y ago

Sorry. I was going to type something rude. The thing is, by "educating the world", the world educates us. We need to do a better job at helping students like you pay for college, but this does not mean that we close our doors to everyone else.

throwaway93480 6y ago

> It's not the US's job to educate the world. From the rest of the world: thank christ for that.

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