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> "Social cohesion" doesn't come up, it's not an issue. Again, asserted, no evidence, no argument. Social cohesion is absolutely an issue. We feel it when we h

> "Social cohesion" doesn't come up, it's not an issue. Again, asserted, no evidence, no argument. Social cohesion is absolutely an issue. We feel it when we have no community organizations, don't know our neighbours, and have nothing gluing us to where we live. The famous Putnam study on social capital is a fine piece of evidence here. I believe we can surmount Putnam's identified problems, but only if we have a rate of influx that is sustainable. That means each newcomer has a chance to get proper language training, recertification, and actually integrate into a local community, which I'll somewhat arbitrarily define as having made some real friends out of the group of local or fully-assimilated people. This is the core requirement of being able to fully participate in social life. > The wealth and income inequality in Canada is much lower than in the US. Some of us would like it to stay that way, and we understand that bringing in a whole bunch of people to undercut the price of labour while eroding our hard-fought social capital is not the way to do that.

arcticbull 6y ago
Putnam's study cover the US not Canada, if I'm not mistaken. Do you have any evidence that the rate of immigration is "too high" to sustain social cohesion in Canada? I would suggest that as you're the one that introduced it the burden of proof is on you. > Some of us would like it to stay that way, and we understand that bringing in a whole bunch of people to undercut the price of labour while eroding our hard-fought social capital is not the way to do that. The immigration rate of 1% per year has been the same since 1992 and I see no evidence of inequality increasing in conjunction with immigration. Do you have evidence? And once again, dramatically increasing wages by cutting off immigration increases income inequality. The GINI has remained a consistent .33 from the late 1990s through the present day, in spite of 1% per annum immigration. You're going to need to back your case if you want to sway my mind.

arcticbull 6y ago

Putnam's study cover the US not Canada, if I'm not mistaken. Do you have any evidence that the rate of immigration is "too high" to sustain social cohesion in Canada? I would suggest that as you're the one that introduced it the burden of proof is on you. > Some of us would like it to stay that way, and we understand that bringing in a whole bunch of people to undercut the price of labour while eroding our hard-fought social capital is not the way to do that. The immigration rate of 1% per year has been the same since 1992 and I see no evidence of inequality increasing in conjunction with immigration. Do you have evidence? And once again, dramatically increasing wages by cutting off immigration increases income inequality. The GINI has remained a consistent .33 from the late 1990s through the present day, in spite of 1% per annum immigration. You're going to need to back your case if you want to sway my mind.