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So this is amusingly similar to the argument against a minimum wage increase. People will lose their jobs, families will lose out. In either case, the employer

So this is amusingly similar to the argument against a minimum wage increase. People will lose their jobs, families will lose out. In either case, the employer is the actual baddie being forced to either raise the wage to an appropriate level or send the employee home (and then attempt to backfill the job with the local market, probably not easy). So if you are for an increased minimum wage, legislation at least in part intended to eliminate abusive employment practices across the low end labor market, (and I assume you are because of your rightful concern for the families) wouldn't it make sense to praise this legislation and focus your frustration on the inevitable corporations that are taking advantage of foreign labor? Or is there more nuance to this?

Cherian_Abraham 6y ago
There is nothing amusing about families being ejected. That's the nuance.
- meekmind 6y ago
  He didn't say families being ejected is amusing. His point is that the argument that increasing minimum wage will result in people getting fired (made often by the right) is practically identical to the argument that increasing the wage requirements for H1B visas will result in people getting fired (now made by the left). The amusing part is that both sides now look like hypocrites. The outcomes for individuals and their families is obviously tragic either way.
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AQuantized 6y ago
There's a big difference between requiring a minimum wage for anyone and specifically requiring a higher wage for existing H1-Bs. In particular, the fact that H1-Bs will have to emigrate if it isn't increased.
- webinvest 6y ago
  It’s an H1-B temporary work visa. They are required to emigrate back regardless after 3 years or less.
  - redditmigrant 6y ago
    The H1B can be and does get renewed by 100s of thousands of people. AC21 provision allows for an H1B to be renewed in perpetuity (even beyond 6 years) until an approved green card petition is pending. The approved green card petition can stay pending for a really long time due to country based immigration queues which disadvantage people from large population countries.
  - Infinitesimus 6y ago
    H1-B is a dual intent work visa an you're not required to emigrate. You shave the option to extend your work permit for 6 years or pursue permanent residency.

Cherian_Abraham 6y ago

There is nothing amusing about families being ejected. That's the nuance.

meekmind 6y ago
He didn't say families being ejected is amusing. His point is that the argument that increasing minimum wage will result in people getting fired (made often by the right) is practically identical to the argument that increasing the wage requirements for H1B visas will result in people getting fired (now made by the left). The amusing part is that both sides now look like hypocrites. The outcomes for individuals and their families is obviously tragic either way.
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AQuantized 6y ago

There's a big difference between requiring a minimum wage for anyone and specifically requiring a higher wage for existing H1-Bs. In particular, the fact that H1-Bs will have to emigrate if it isn't increased.

webinvest 6y ago
It’s an H1-B temporary work visa. They are required to emigrate back regardless after 3 years or less.
- redditmigrant 6y ago
  The H1B can be and does get renewed by 100s of thousands of people. AC21 provision allows for an H1B to be renewed in perpetuity (even beyond 6 years) until an approved green card petition is pending. The approved green card petition can stay pending for a really long time due to country based immigration queues which disadvantage people from large population countries.
- Infinitesimus 6y ago
  H1-B is a dual intent work visa an you're not required to emigrate. You shave the option to extend your work permit for 6 years or pursue permanent residency.