Yeah and the major problem with Java generics is they aren't more like C++ templates. Today it is 100% clear that the naysayers were not only wrong about Java

Yeah and the major problem with Java generics is they aren't more like C++ templates. Today it is 100% clear that the naysayers were not only wrong about Java generics. They are wrong about generic programming in general. Unfortunately they managed to cripple Java before this realisation became obvious.