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Mind sharing some numbers? This is a patently false statement. Wages in Canada might be lower, but that is because they get a number of other social benefits, s

by koluna 6y ago

Mind sharing some numbers? This is a patently false statement. Wages in Canada might be lower, but that is because they get a number of other social benefits, such as healthcare, that gets paid through taxes taken from said wages.

gruez 6y ago
>Wages in Canada might be lower, but that is because they get a number of other social benefits, such as healthcare, that gets paid through taxes taken from said wages. Not really. They (and most other developed countries) simply pay less of their GDP towards healthcare.
- koluna 6y ago
  That is... the opposite of what Canada does? Healthcare there is not uber-funded, but also not necessarily strapped for cash.
  - gruez 6y ago
    I'm not implying that Canada (or other developed countries) are cheaping out on healthcare. I'm only pointing out that your initial claim (that the differences in pay can be accounted for because of the various taxes paid) isn't true, or at least isn't telling the whole story.
mardifoufs 6y ago
But gross wages are also lower here. If anything almost everyone I've came across here in Canada talks about their salary using the gross amount. So not only are wages employers advertise pretty low already, they are usually pretax too. Unless there's something more that is taken from wages that isn't shown on paychecks. Which would be weird considering that paycheck stubs usually have a full breakdown of where your money went and how much taxes were taken.
- koluna 6y ago
  Everyone I talk to in the States also talks about their salaries in gross amounts, not post-tax (same applies for business advertising jobs). Canada in general has much lower income inequality, which is an a-OK trade off for slightly lower wages, as long as basic needs are covered.
ashconnor 6y ago
Taxes in Ontario are similar to say California. That's not the reason wages are lower.
908B64B197 6y ago
For Software Engineering pretty much all jobs will have great health coverage included, on top of a higher salary. So when you add the value of the coverage, the wages looks ever lower in comparison.

by koluna 6y ago

gruez 6y ago

>Wages in Canada might be lower, but that is because they get a number of other social benefits, such as healthcare, that gets paid through taxes taken from said wages. Not really. They (and most other developed countries) simply pay less of their GDP towards healthcare.

koluna 6y ago
That is... the opposite of what Canada does? Healthcare there is not uber-funded, but also not necessarily strapped for cash.
- gruez 6y ago
  I'm not implying that Canada (or other developed countries) are cheaping out on healthcare. I'm only pointing out that your initial claim (that the differences in pay can be accounted for because of the various taxes paid) isn't true, or at least isn't telling the whole story.

mardifoufs 6y ago

But gross wages are also lower here. If anything almost everyone I've came across here in Canada talks about their salary using the gross amount. So not only are wages employers advertise pretty low already, they are usually pretax too. Unless there's something more that is taken from wages that isn't shown on paychecks. Which would be weird considering that paycheck stubs usually have a full breakdown of where your money went and how much taxes were taken.

koluna 6y ago
Everyone I talk to in the States also talks about their salaries in gross amounts, not post-tax (same applies for business advertising jobs). Canada in general has much lower income inequality, which is an a-OK trade off for slightly lower wages, as long as basic needs are covered.

ashconnor 6y ago

Taxes in Ontario are similar to say California. That's not the reason wages are lower.

908B64B197 6y ago

For Software Engineering pretty much all jobs will have great health coverage included, on top of a higher salary. So when you add the value of the coverage, the wages looks ever lower in comparison.