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I mean, this chastity thing is weird to me too, but "serves them right?" Assuming consent, I feel the answer to badly implemented sex gear should be well-implem

I mean, this chastity thing is weird to me too, but "serves them right?" Assuming consent, I feel the answer to badly implemented sex gear should be well-implemented sex gear, not no sex gear at all. "What have we come to as a species" is an expression of shock better saved for things like our species' propensity to torture and kill unwilling victims. That's fucked up.

Thorentis 6y ago
It was more an expression of dismay at the lack of evolutionary fitness these actions are displaying. Your fitness is literally measured by your ability to reproduce, and here are people locking their penis inside a device that a) it intended for somebody else to control (weird) b) is actually defective and they ended up being stuck inside it, and worst case could've set their member on fire. Somebody give them a Darwin award. So no, I don't think such an expression is better saved for other things, though of course I agree it could be applied to those things too.
- evan_ 6y ago
  that's a bad metric. If our ancient ancestors sat on a rock staring at a flickering rectangle for 8 hours a day they'd be eaten by tigers, but we're doing OK.
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    Though, even in the being-eaten-by-a-tiger era, we apparently had sex toys; examples of dildos from 30,000 years ago, and maybe longer, have been found.
- Kinrany 6y ago
  Optimising for evolutionary fitness is about as productive as moving things downstairs to help gravity.
- jjulius 6y ago
  >Your fitness is literally measured by your ability to reproduce... Choosing to use this device for sexual pleasure does not mean that they are incapable of reproducing. It also doesn't mean that they don't want to reproduce at all. These types of toys are also not necessarily limited to single, childless people - couples with children almost certainly employ these devices as well. >... intended for somebody else to control (weird)... Just because something is someone's kink, but it's not your kink, doesn't make it weird. People are into what they're into. Someone controlling someone else in the bedroom is actually an incredibly common scenario, and chastity for both genders is found quite often in the BDSM scene especially in dom/sub play. Your lack of understanding on this subject - which is OK - is coming off as kink-shaming. Just keep that in mind when you ask yourself why you're being downvoted.
  - rsynnott 6y ago
    > These types of toys are also not necessarily limited to single, childless people In this particular case it’s useless to single people; the whole idea is to have someone else controlling it.
- smabie 6y ago
  Genital mutilation is intrinsic to who we are.

Thorentis 6y ago

It was more an expression of dismay at the lack of evolutionary fitness these actions are displaying. Your fitness is literally measured by your ability to reproduce, and here are people locking their penis inside a device that a) it intended for somebody else to control (weird) b) is actually defective and they ended up being stuck inside it, and worst case could've set their member on fire. Somebody give them a Darwin award. So no, I don't think such an expression is better saved for other things, though of course I agree it could be applied to those things too.

evan_ 6y ago
that's a bad metric. If our ancient ancestors sat on a rock staring at a flickering rectangle for 8 hours a day they'd be eaten by tigers, but we're doing OK.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  Though, even in the being-eaten-by-a-tiger era, we apparently had sex toys; examples of dildos from 30,000 years ago, and maybe longer, have been found.
Kinrany 6y ago
Optimising for evolutionary fitness is about as productive as moving things downstairs to help gravity.
jjulius 6y ago
>Your fitness is literally measured by your ability to reproduce... Choosing to use this device for sexual pleasure does not mean that they are incapable of reproducing. It also doesn't mean that they don't want to reproduce at all. These types of toys are also not necessarily limited to single, childless people - couples with children almost certainly employ these devices as well. >... intended for somebody else to control (weird)... Just because something is someone's kink, but it's not your kink, doesn't make it weird. People are into what they're into. Someone controlling someone else in the bedroom is actually an incredibly common scenario, and chastity for both genders is found quite often in the BDSM scene especially in dom/sub play. Your lack of understanding on this subject - which is OK - is coming off as kink-shaming. Just keep that in mind when you ask yourself why you're being downvoted.
- rsynnott 6y ago
  > These types of toys are also not necessarily limited to single, childless people In this particular case it’s useless to single people; the whole idea is to have someone else controlling it.
smabie 6y ago
Genital mutilation is intrinsic to who we are.