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>Well, they're unlikely to emerge within another's sphere, aren't they? Unless they're exceedingly civilised, civilisations behave like cuckoos to their neighbo

>Well, they're unlikely to emerge within another's sphere, aren't they? Unless they're exceedingly civilised, civilisations behave like cuckoos to their neighbours. How would you describe christianity in the roman empire? I might considerit a 'new civilization' once it was adpoted. In the US, religion is in severe decline in any place near or in a city. Rural religious communities are hanging on by threads. I've seen church closings and communities that have adopted agnostic beliefs fairly qucikly in the last 4 years. Immigrants do bring a lot of religious people here but their children usually do not conform to those beliefs.

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Christianity within the roman empire might be a good counterexample. However, Justinian came to power in Byzantium in 527, while classical Rome appears to have been done for, if not by 192, at least by 268. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Third_Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Third_Century > "The crisis began with the assassination of Emperor Severus Alexander by his own troops in 235. This initiated a 50-year period during which there were at least 26 claimants to the title of emperor, mostly prominent Roman army generals, who assumed imperial power over all or part of the Empire." Furthermore, > ... religion is in severe decline in any place near or in a city. Rural religious communities are hanging on by threads. is not supported by the data[1] on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States#2014_Pew_Research_Center_data https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States#... and we know from the 1950-2019 graph that secular trends are not rapid enough to drastically change the numbers below in half a decade. For instance, Seattle itself was 63% religious, and as for rural religious communities, alabama was 87% religious. [1] It's amusing to me how the US divides religious beliefs. For example, my wife, from a traditionally catholic area, divides christianity with the trichotomy of "Christians" (catholics), "Reformeds" (protestants) and "Fishies" (all the other cults). To be fair, she might count orthodox in their own grouping, but when this came up we were talking about local cults. So (assuming all those racially segegrated listings are evangelical denominations?) she'd say the US a few years ago was 13% reformed, 20% christian, and 32-35% fishie.

082349872349872 6y ago

Christianity within the roman empire might be a good counterexample. However, Justinian came to power in Byzantium in 527, while classical Rome appears to have been done for, if not by 192, at least by 268. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Third_Century https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Third_Century > "The crisis began with the assassination of Emperor Severus Alexander by his own troops in 235. This initiated a 50-year period during which there were at least 26 claimants to the title of emperor, mostly prominent Roman army generals, who assumed imperial power over all or part of the Empire." Furthermore, > ... religion is in severe decline in any place near or in a city. Rural religious communities are hanging on by threads. is not supported by the data[1] on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States#2014_Pew_Research_Center_data https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States#... and we know from the 1950-2019 graph that secular trends are not rapid enough to drastically change the numbers below in half a decade. For instance, Seattle itself was 63% religious, and as for rural religious communities, alabama was 87% religious. [1] It's amusing to me how the US divides religious beliefs. For example, my wife, from a traditionally catholic area, divides christianity with the trichotomy of "Christians" (catholics), "Reformeds" (protestants) and "Fishies" (all the other cults). To be fair, she might count orthodox in their own grouping, but when this came up we were talking about local cults. So (assuming all those racially segegrated listings are evangelical denominations?) she'd say the US a few years ago was 13% reformed, 20% christian, and 32-35% fishie.