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Your comment and the one higher in this chain makes it sound like a hard problem when it's only a problem for the United States and no other (1st world) country

Your comment and the one higher in this chain makes it sound like a hard problem when it's only a problem for the United States and no other (1st world) country. I don't really understand how that's possible.

AdmiralAsshat 6y ago
It's a well-established pattern. https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1836949715 https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-na...
- nickff 6y ago
  >"When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." " >" Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - AdmiralAsshat 6y ago
    I can assume good faith while still believing your comment is driven by the same American Exceptionalism mentality that leads to the mindset echoed by The Onion article. If your concern is that the reply comes across as mocking rather than engaging: the article was more concise and more eloquent than the potential diatribe I had written up, so I used it.
    - nickff 6y ago
      I am not an American, and I do not believe in American Exceptionalism.
  - chipotle_coyote 6y ago
    Someone (skipants) did respond that way: > Your comment and the one higher in this chain makes it sound like a hard problem when it's only a problem for the United States and no other (1st world) country. I don't really understand how that's possible. Yes, healthcare is byzantine in the US, but it's not less complex in any other first world country, yet America is a dramatic outlier -- in a bad way -- in terms of price to performance. Countries that do markedly better on such measures are also countries which tend to have some kind of price controls built into their healthcare system. While I understand the temptation to bristle at the more needling comment, it's hard not to see debating over whether someone whose username is "Asshat" is being unfairly sarcastic as a bit beside the point. (Also, the good admiral did not, as far as I can tell, attack you, he attacked what he perceived to be your argument.)

AdmiralAsshat 6y ago

It's a well-established pattern. https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1836949715 https://www.theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-na...

nickff 6y ago
>"When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3." " >" Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. " https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- AdmiralAsshat 6y ago
  I can assume good faith while still believing your comment is driven by the same American Exceptionalism mentality that leads to the mindset echoed by The Onion article. If your concern is that the reply comes across as mocking rather than engaging: the article was more concise and more eloquent than the potential diatribe I had written up, so I used it.
  - nickff 6y ago
    I am not an American, and I do not believe in American Exceptionalism.
- chipotle_coyote 6y ago
  Someone (skipants) did respond that way: > Your comment and the one higher in this chain makes it sound like a hard problem when it's only a problem for the United States and no other (1st world) country. I don't really understand how that's possible. Yes, healthcare is byzantine in the US, but it's not less complex in any other first world country, yet America is a dramatic outlier -- in a bad way -- in terms of price to performance. Countries that do markedly better on such measures are also countries which tend to have some kind of price controls built into their healthcare system. While I understand the temptation to bristle at the more needling comment, it's hard not to see debating over whether someone whose username is "Asshat" is being unfairly sarcastic as a bit beside the point. (Also, the good admiral did not, as far as I can tell, attack you, he attacked what he perceived to be your argument.)