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The HN crowd is not one to support conspiracy theories, but if the CCP were to strategically release a virus into the world, what better way to give them a comp

The HN crowd is not one to support conspiracy theories, but if the CCP were to strategically release a virus into the world, what better way to give them a competitive advantage than to give a non-negligible percentage of their global competitors chronic fatigue? Speaking as someone in the tech space still suffering from fatigue and brain fog (with no real signs of improvement) 7 months after infection. My productivity has certainly gone down.

namarie 6y ago
Why would they release it among their own people first?
- lend000 6y ago
  I'm not denying the plausibility that it was simply a mistake with a highly contagious virus being studied in their Wuhan lab, but they would have certainly been aware they would have a much better chance at curbing the virus than countries that support more individual freedom. Releasing it there first, if intentional, would further signal it was an accident and prevent severe diplomatic fallout.
  - hwillis 6y ago
    > I'm not denying the plausibility that it was simply a mistake with a highly contagious virus being studied in their Wuhan lab There are two labs in Wuhan. The institute of virology, and the wuhan CDC. The institute of virology is 12 km from where the virus started spreading. The CDC lab -which does not study viruses- was the one at the center of the spread. The amount of bullshit associated with the origins of the virus is embarrassing. It would be one thing if it was planted propaganda- there are obvious lies and embellishments, but the sheer number of mistranslations, misunderstandings, and hilariously implausible theories taken as fact is insane. Potholer54 did a rather methodical takedown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab-r0capbzk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab-r0capbzk
- lsllc 6y ago
  If this were Tom Clancy or a James Bond 007 plot ... you'd release a less infectious/harmful version locally otherwise it would be too obvious and you might get nuked.
  - collyw 6y ago
    If there were a less harmful version.... https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/coronavirus-aggressive-l-type-strain-affecting-70-per-cent-of-cases/ https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/coronavirus-aggressive-l-t...
    - lsllc 6y ago
      I think this is the D vs G strains? https://www.biospace.com/article/mutated-covid-19-viral-strain-in-us-and-europe-much-more-contagious/ https://www.biospace.com/article/mutated-covid-19-viral-stra...
jnxx 6y ago
> but if the CCP were to strategically release a virus into the world, what better way to give them a competitive advantage than to give a non-negligible percentage of their global competitors chronic fatigue? Viewed through that lens, it is surely a cunning plot of Mother Earth do bring down our insane resource consumption, no? Maybe a bat conspiracy against humanity?
- lend000 6y ago
  So many seemingly intelligent people are incredibly naive about the number of real world conspiracies that have come to light. You probably would have made a similar comment about MK-Ultra or Operation Sea Spray before the documents were published [0]. Now imagine what a totalitarian government might do. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray

namarie 6y ago

Why would they release it among their own people first?

lend000 6y ago
I'm not denying the plausibility that it was simply a mistake with a highly contagious virus being studied in their Wuhan lab, but they would have certainly been aware they would have a much better chance at curbing the virus than countries that support more individual freedom. Releasing it there first, if intentional, would further signal it was an accident and prevent severe diplomatic fallout.
- hwillis 6y ago
  > I'm not denying the plausibility that it was simply a mistake with a highly contagious virus being studied in their Wuhan lab There are two labs in Wuhan. The institute of virology, and the wuhan CDC. The institute of virology is 12 km from where the virus started spreading. The CDC lab -which does not study viruses- was the one at the center of the spread. The amount of bullshit associated with the origins of the virus is embarrassing. It would be one thing if it was planted propaganda- there are obvious lies and embellishments, but the sheer number of mistranslations, misunderstandings, and hilariously implausible theories taken as fact is insane. Potholer54 did a rather methodical takedown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab-r0capbzk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab-r0capbzk
lsllc 6y ago
If this were Tom Clancy or a James Bond 007 plot ... you'd release a less infectious/harmful version locally otherwise it would be too obvious and you might get nuked.
- collyw 6y ago
  If there were a less harmful version.... https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/coronavirus-aggressive-l-type-strain-affecting-70-per-cent-of-cases/ https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/coronavirus-aggressive-l-t...
  - lsllc 6y ago
    I think this is the D vs G strains? https://www.biospace.com/article/mutated-covid-19-viral-strain-in-us-and-europe-much-more-contagious/ https://www.biospace.com/article/mutated-covid-19-viral-stra...

jnxx 6y ago

> but if the CCP were to strategically release a virus into the world, what better way to give them a competitive advantage than to give a non-negligible percentage of their global competitors chronic fatigue? Viewed through that lens, it is surely a cunning plot of Mother Earth do bring down our insane resource consumption, no? Maybe a bat conspiracy against humanity?

lend000 6y ago
So many seemingly intelligent people are incredibly naive about the number of real world conspiracies that have come to light. You probably would have made a similar comment about MK-Ultra or Operation Sea Spray before the documents were published [0]. Now imagine what a totalitarian government might do. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sea-Spray