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Thanks for your comment! I think you make a really good point and this is part of my initial idea (and probably came too short in my blogpost): To make permacu

Thanks for your comment! I think you make a really good point and this is part of my initial idea (and probably came too short in my blogpost): To make permaculture successful, we need to make people economically successful with it beyond teaching and giving workshops. I tried other forums and websites and couldn't find many people who make a living out of permaculture. On the other side permaculture is designed to not be part of any "economic thinking": One basic principle is lowering your inputs, so I get when people use permaculture to actually get out of any economic thinking. Happy to hear your thoughts!

mooreds 6y ago
Fair points. I have been out of the game for a while so not sure what is currently out there, but a search for "permaculture network" turns up 3-4 viable candidates. I didn't mean to rain on your parade, too much, but wanted to drive home that information sharing is nice, but creating permaculture businesses is more important. It's the same thing as a CSA directory (I ran one for about 10 years). The CSA directory is nice and scalable and easy, and helpful to end users, but the crux of the economic system is the CSA farm, actually delivering value to others. To make an analogy, permaculture has too many directories and not enough farms. If you haven't, I'd suggest listening to Scott Mann/The Permaculture Podcast, as he has lots of inspiring stories about people making a living from permaculture: https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/ https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/
- kyuudou 6y ago
  What do the both of you think of the WWOOF [1] orgs? It seems like this is one of the better directories, if specifically just for organic farms. I'm really new to this, though. 1: http://wwoofusa.org http://wwoofusa.org
  - mooreds 6y ago
    I WWOOFed in my youth, really enjoyed it. Don't know much about the USA org, though.

mooreds 6y ago

Fair points. I have been out of the game for a while so not sure what is currently out there, but a search for "permaculture network" turns up 3-4 viable candidates. I didn't mean to rain on your parade, too much, but wanted to drive home that information sharing is nice, but creating permaculture businesses is more important. It's the same thing as a CSA directory (I ran one for about 10 years). The CSA directory is nice and scalable and easy, and helpful to end users, but the crux of the economic system is the CSA farm, actually delivering value to others. To make an analogy, permaculture has too many directories and not enough farms. If you haven't, I'd suggest listening to Scott Mann/The Permaculture Podcast, as he has lots of inspiring stories about people making a living from permaculture: https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/ https://www.thepermaculturepodcast.com/

kyuudou 6y ago
What do the both of you think of the WWOOF [1] orgs? It seems like this is one of the better directories, if specifically just for organic farms. I'm really new to this, though. 1: http://wwoofusa.org http://wwoofusa.org
- mooreds 6y ago
  I WWOOFed in my youth, really enjoyed it. Don't know much about the USA org, though.