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Killed by Google
- all_blue_chucks 6y agoThat's an impressively long list but some of those entries are a bit of a stretch. Google Nexus, for example, was rebranded as Google Pixel. Most people wouldn't describe rebranding as "killing" a product.
- judge2020 6y agoA quick list: Angular: v1 is "dead", but is still receiving major version updates https://angular.io/guide/updating-to-version-10 https://angular.io/guide/updating-to-version-10 Hangouts: meet.google.com Password Checkup: integrated into Chrome, Firefox has its own thing as well. Google Photos Print: it's just no longer a subscription service that automatically selects photos (who would want something to pick a photo book's photos for you??). https://www.google.com/photos/printing/ https://www.google.com/photos/printing/ Shoelace: Kind of disingenuous to include Area 120 projects, which are experiments by design. Google Chrome Apps: Sunset in favor of PWAs which don't rely on Chrome Web Store? sign me up! Dragonfly: Was never public so I don't see this as 'killed'. I think these different announcement types should be noted or properly filtered, maybe by noting the app that replaces the app, eg "alternative: google meet".
- arthtyagi 6y agoI agree with some of what you're saying but Hangouts didn't JUST get rebranded. Meet was introduced while Hangouts was still alive.
- codyogden 6y agoCreator here. I was just trying to gather updated information on Hangouts a couple days ago. I try to keep the list as accurate as possible. I'm probably going to move it (or even remove it), but haven't had any solid info either way come my way. Thread from Twitter talking about Hangouts: https://twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/1312596627186688000 https://twitter.com/killedbygoogle/status/131259662718668800...
- d_rc 6y agoAngular being the latest addition there.. I agree, I wouldn't really say that 1.7 development being discontinued is a "death" of Angular. Really not.
- chrismorgan 6y agoAngularJS is dead. Angular continues. As a non-user, the impression I got on the release of Angular 2 was roughly “we’re making a new product that shares some similarities with AngularJS, and we’ll continue to maintain both indefinitely, but all active development will be on this new product that we’ve decided to name ‘Angular’ just to confuse everyone”.
- 0xy 6y agoIt was a mercy killing.
- blaisio 6y agoThe point is they create a huge amount of hassle for users by constantly killing/replacing/renaming products, and it also shows that they aren't doing any effective long-term planning. That's what makes people mad. Angular: I agree that angular is not dead, people can still use v1 if they want to. This does not count. Hangouts: the new version has different pricing, different features, different name, different URL, different apps... this absolutely counts (and is one of the most egregious examples) Password checkup: the extension worked fine, but they intentionally disabled it. Any references to it on the web now have to be updated to refer to password checkup in the browser. Anyone who knows how to use the extension has to relearn how to use it in the browser. This counts. Google Photos Print: yes the original was stupid, but it was still a product and is now gone. This counts. Shoelace: yeah this never really launched in the first place. This doesn't count. Google Chrome Apps: I mean really? Anything that requires rewriting parts of an app to make it work counts! Dragonfly: this was never released, it doesn't count. But it is important that people know about this, it is an example of Google quite blatantly being evil.
- jeffbee 6y ago> they aren't doing any effective long-term planning They do, you just don't grok it. These applications are just toys. They are the result of the plan but not the plan itself. The plan is to just bury a ton of fiber, build a ton of computers, hire a ton of developers, and see what the heck happens. The plan is so successful that they can build and deploy these apps for almost no marginal cost, which is why they also probably feel free to just throw them away.
- Judgmentality 6y agoNo - Google does not have some brilliant master plan we are unable to understand. If you're really arguing that their "plan" is to just spend money and see what sticks, then I'd say they absolutely deserve criticism for being fucking clueless idiots.
- jeffbee 6y agoWe are discussing the issue here in the very cathedral of "spend money and see what sticks". That's the whole silicon valley venture strategy. If you think of Google as a large-scale startup incubator with a very efficient private cloud in house, then you will understand the long tail of their product lineup much better.
- Rebelgecko 6y agoAre PWAs comparable with Chrome apps? IIRC games like Bastion were able to use native code (maybe WASM fills the gap?)
- dafoex 6y agoThe only real issue I have with ditching chrome apps in favour of PWAs it all the lost work in making web apps look and feel native. Now we have to live with a half-browser wrapper that may or may not have the forward and back buttons as fallback in order to use PWAs that the developer never expected to be "installed" to a computer.
- andoriyu 6y agonah, Nexus was partner phones. Pixel is actually made and designed by google.
- dafoex 6y agoSame with Google Goggles, which was replaced by Google Lens. It wasn't just a simple rebranding as the two existed at the same time momentarily, but no functionality was really lost.
- laichzeit0 6y agoI’m in two minds about this. How many side projects have I abandoned? If it was my business, and a particular part of it wasn’t meeting a KPI and cost money, what would I do? Probably kill it off too.
- andi999 6y agoDo this a few times and people will be cautious to use your new products.
- jeffbee 6y agoSome of these, like the Chromebook Pixel, seem like technicalities. They still sell the "Pixelbook". What's the difference? The two things I really miss that are on this list are Inbox and Field Trip. I used to just browse Field Trip while I was riding the buses or trains. Was really enjoyable. I don't know why this page says 2015. Field Trip survived the spinoff of Niantic and was only recently shut down.
- AnonC 6y agoGoogle’s products and naming of products/services seemingly have had no discernible strategies at all. It’s as if people get bonuses for “new” introductions that replace the “old” and then they move on, leaving someone else to try the same trick again. It would be fun if Google published this list officially using the domain killedby.google.
- codyogden 6y ago> It would be fun if Google published this list officially using the domain killedby.google. Google, if you're listening, please acquire me. hah.
- TMWNN 6y agoI have used GeForce NOW and Xcloud. I've not used Stadia, but I hear that its streaming technology is excellent, including 4K graphics. That said, /r/stadia seems to be panicking; a lot of people are convinced that the new Chromecast launched this week with no Stadia support (not until "mid 2021") is yet more proof that Google has given up on the service.
- arthtyagi 6y agoThe panic isn't unprecedented imo, Google should at least provide more updates on it.
- dudus 6y agoThere are tons of updates on stadia. They put out at least a post a week with new features and games. The pro subscribers now have access to dozens of games free of charge. Just last weak they put out the first game with support to crowd choice where you can have viewers of your game stream make choices in real time for you to play.
- foobiekr 6y agoHaving tried both, GeForce Now performed significantly better than Stadia, as well the steam library aspect...
- ocdtrekkie 6y agoI mean, Stadia folks at Google can say what they want from their little bubble, but the choice to launch a new Chromecast without them does speak much louder about how the company as a whole positions it.
- avs733 6y agocloud print was one of my favorite google products ever...it just worked, it was simple, it allowed me to print things I found to read and they were just on the printer at home when I got there. Still trying to find an effective non-home-serve based alternative.
- andi999 6y agoWhat about HP ePrint (sending document by email to printer) - does this fit your requirements?
- stanislavb 6y agoIn the light of this post, I've built an extended version of this one that includes some of the top alternatives of each "killed" product - https://www.saashub.com/google-graveyard https://www.saashub.com/google-graveyard
- yks 6y agoI wish it would be possible to get hired into Google straight onto the projects at risk, to have an opportunity to support them even in exchange for giving up the promotions.
- titzer 6y agoAh heck, I forgot about iGoogle. It was pretty awesome being able to set up your own personal portal to the web, with neat little lightweight widgets. I used to have widgets for everything from the stock market to weather to newsgroups. It was like a dashboard on the (web) world. Now what is there for that? Anything? Only in hindsight do I see now how much of a hole that left in my experience of the web, and it's been replaced with nothing. Sad.
- LeoPanthera 6y agoI am astounded to learn that "My Yahoo" still exists. It has to be at least 20 years old at this point. https://my.yahoo.com https://my.yahoo.com (24 years old, according to Wikipedia!)
- dnissley 6y agoSounds like a chrome extension could/would do something like that.
- titzer 6y agoCould be. I never really looked into it because my brain predicted that would eventually be taken away, too. Sadly. Learned helplessness I guess.
- santa_boy 6y agoI always wonder why Google Desktop was killed. It used to work so well.
- gosukiwi 6y agoForgive my ignorance but, is Angular dead?
- codyogden 6y agoAngularJS is dead (or will be). Angular (in TypeScript) is not.
- dirtnugget 6y agoAngular (without JS at the end) is Angular version 2+. It is open source and they are actively developing new versions, we will have it for at least a few more years.
- leoh 6y ago"Death is very likely the single best invention of life." — SJ This is a dishonest website. Many of the products or technologies that have been "killed" were replaced by other compelling products in the space — either by Google itself or by third parties — or could not be monetized. Google is not a public utility and there is little incentive — nay, it would be strictly harmful — for them to continue building products that are non-competitive in the marketplace. Killing products is beneficial and non-monopolistic as it allows other developers to build products as opposed to Google offering them for free ad-infinitum. By contrast, this is in direct opposition to Amazon's strategy, which is to offer an incredible number of products and services at a loss, thereby depriving other players from competing. One day, people will realize that Amazon's actions unquestionably drove down the quality of products (they already have, one need not look far — just consider the quality of Whole Foods goods post-acquisition or the myriad scam products listed as real on Amazon's website). Side-note: should Google have continued to maintain Angular when other solutions are clearly better? What would be the point? Google did the right thing, letting Angular die a dignified death and letting superior technologies like React take the reins. EDIT: if you are down-voting me, would you care to explain why instead of merely doing that? EDIT 2: this is a great comment which further clarifies the part of the point https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24694575 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24694575
- domador 6y agoWhat's dishonest about it? I think "killed" is often a fair description, especially when the "replacement" is an altogether different program (such as in the case of Google Cloud Connect, which Google Drive didn't suitably replace.) Yes, Google is not a public utility... but users' willingness to adopt new services is not a free, renewable resource, either. Some of us get tired of embracing new tools only for them to be ripped out of our hands by their maker, after we've made them an integral part of our workflow. I've become more of a laggard due to Google's and other companies' actions in this area.
- leoh 6y agoIt's dishonest because it doesn't offer a balanced view, merely articulating all the products Google has killed without offering any kind of insight as to _why_ they killed so many products or the fact that they didn't really "kill" some products at all. Sure, it's not "inaccurate." But framing is everything, and we're increasingly living in an intensely context-free, implicitly dishonest world. I could build a website where all I talk about all day is all the cool things Trump does (he undoubtedly does at least some cool shit) without a single mention of his inadequacies. Would you disagree with the dishonest characterization there?
- domador 6y agoOne victim I mourned for a long time was Google Cloud Connect. I loved it's syncing, versioning, and collaboration... and that this happen right inside Microsoft Office programs. Google Drive was an unworthy successor and an unsatisfactory replacement. I never used it as much or in a similar way to how I used Cloud Connect. I tried, but it was frustrating. I hate it when tech giants kill off great tools and try to get us to adopt mediocre replacements.
- jaimex2 6y agoFantastic reminder to never use non-core Google products, ever.
- jrnichols 6y agoor like many other services, just don't get too wrapped up in them thinking they'll be around forever. Much safer that way.
- leke 6y agoIsn't AngularJS opensource? So won't it just be in the hands of the community, after google has stopped officially supporting it?
- leoh 6y agoNot only that, it still receives critical updates. v1.8.1 was just released merely 16 hours ago — https://github.com/angular/angular.js/releases https://github.com/angular/angular.js/releases. Also see https://docs.angularjs.org/misc/version-support-status https://docs.angularjs.org/misc/version-support-status.
- topkai22 6y agoIt’s not clear from the official docs AFAIK. While the code is MIT licensed, there might be trademark issues with the name AngularJS and continuing the existing repo. That being said, I’m sure creating a fork of AngularJS and providing paid support and consultancy will be a minor gold mine for some organization shortly.
- dirtnugget 6y agoYeah, my current customer is still relying on an Angular 1.5 module which is being used by their Angular 10 frontend. I don’t see it going anywhere in the near time.
- kalyantm 6y agoWho else is praying that AMP reaches that list ASAP?
- dirtnugget 6y agoJust waiting for Stadia to be added.
- dafoex 6y agoRIP Google+, though. Yes, it was obviously spyware dressed as a social network (then again, aren't they all?) But allowing users to make custom "circles" of friends and share things with some circles and not others is something I don't think I've seen any other social network do.