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Never heard of this at all. Managers are weakly incentivized. The way it works in my FANG company is you put in your rankings of your reports with one top contr
by incognition 6y ago
Never heard of this at all. Managers are weakly incentivized. The way it works in my FANG company is you put in your rankings of your reports with one top contributor. HR uses their model to spit out customized compensation. I know because I assisted HR in developing the model. At a high enough management level it’s possible to raise all boats but the article covers that as L6+ manager ie upper management.
- joshuamorton 6y agoL6 management isn't "upper" management. L5 is the first level you can manage engineers. At L6, you may, or may not, be managing another manager or two.
- incognition 6y agoSemantics and not true of all FAANG companies, eg check https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google,Facebook,Microsoft&track=Software%20Engineering%20Manager https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Google,Facebook,Microsoft&tr.... Historically, the org levels pull from military enlisted/officer E1-7 vs O1-7 splits so actually would lean towards our definition more.
- joshuamorton 6y agoLevels.fyi supports what I said. Amazon, Facebook, and Google have L6 as the second level of management. (Facebook sometimes uses the "L" indicator, and M1 is L6). There is no company where "L6" means upper management. > Historically, the org levels pull from military enlisted/officer E1-7 vs O1-7 splits so actually would lean towards our definition more. I don't think there's reason to believe this. Google, for example, doesn't have a split. Nor does Amazon. Facebook does, but it only resembles the military rankings by coincidence, since it likely took more from Google's leveling system originally (and afaik there are still leftovers from that). To the main point, while the compensation methodologies work differently at every company, I expect that the "rising tide" effect is always present.