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Food for thought: > Paleoclimatological studies indicate that the last 150 years of California's history have been unusually wet compared to the previous 2000

Food for thought: > Paleoclimatological studies indicate that the last 150 years of California's history have been unusually wet compared to the previous 2000 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_in_California

01100011 6y ago
I try to bring this up whenever people are surprised that CA is being CA, but it's just not at sexy as stories of impending doom brought on by AGW. I'm not denying the seriousness of AGW, I just don't think it's the reason my clothes are wrinkled or my dog ran away. The standard CA marketing package doesn't really talk about our normal climatic variations. I think newcomers to the state are surprised at some of the slightly unusual but not unheard of weather and disasters and seek to blame some new, ominous force.
- pixl97 6y ago
  Well, the one thing anti-AWG try to say is that it's just climate, we don't need to change our behaviour. When where long cycle climate change is going to force us to change our behaviour anyway. People thing AWG is just carbon reduction, but it will demand far more change than that.
jaaron 6y ago
I think we're seeing more awareness that the situation due to a number of factors: climate change, yes, but overzealous fire suppression and public policy too. Yet when the topic turns to historical California, I'm surprised there isn't more acknowledgement of just how much of the California ecosystem has changed in the last couple hundred years, making comparisons not quite as apt. Invasive grasses, as just one example, have completely changed the landscape.
- bigbubba 6y ago
  Between AGW trends, California's historically hot and dry climate, and invasive grasses/trees, it seems like there isn't much hope on the horizon for California. All signs seem to point to a drier more flammable California continuing to develop.

01100011 6y ago

I try to bring this up whenever people are surprised that CA is being CA, but it's just not at sexy as stories of impending doom brought on by AGW. I'm not denying the seriousness of AGW, I just don't think it's the reason my clothes are wrinkled or my dog ran away. The standard CA marketing package doesn't really talk about our normal climatic variations. I think newcomers to the state are surprised at some of the slightly unusual but not unheard of weather and disasters and seek to blame some new, ominous force.

pixl97 6y ago
Well, the one thing anti-AWG try to say is that it's just climate, we don't need to change our behaviour. When where long cycle climate change is going to force us to change our behaviour anyway. People thing AWG is just carbon reduction, but it will demand far more change than that.

jaaron 6y ago

I think we're seeing more awareness that the situation due to a number of factors: climate change, yes, but overzealous fire suppression and public policy too. Yet when the topic turns to historical California, I'm surprised there isn't more acknowledgement of just how much of the California ecosystem has changed in the last couple hundred years, making comparisons not quite as apt. Invasive grasses, as just one example, have completely changed the landscape.

bigbubba 6y ago
Between AGW trends, California's historically hot and dry climate, and invasive grasses/trees, it seems like there isn't much hope on the horizon for California. All signs seem to point to a drier more flammable California continuing to develop.