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Some people don't have that privilege. Ever known someone that works two jobs trying to make ends meet? You don't have a choice except to drive home from work.
by root_axis 6y ago
Some people don't have that privilege. Ever known someone that works two jobs trying to make ends meet? You don't have a choice except to drive home from work.
- wow_yes 6y agoTake the bus
- t-writescode 6y agoSome people don’t have that privilege either.
- spike021 6y agoI would argue that a car is totally a privilege that is above that of finding other means of transportation. I couldn't even afford one until I graduated college and was working full-time. Before then I walked if I had to, sometimes over a mile depending on the destination, or took public transportation.
- quicklyfrozen 6y agoLiving somewhere where you don't need a car is the privilege, at least in the US. I'd have to walk 2 miles to get to public transit, and that includes crossing a pedestrian unfriendly major road.
- root_axis 6y agoNot a realistic option for daily life in the U.S. and often not even possible if you work late hours. Ride sharing is way too expensive to use every day.
- konschubert 6y agoYou can try to emigrate to a richer country, you can try to reduce your expenses, you move in with relatives, you can sleep in the car. These are all terrible choices but endangering other people is also a choice.
- root_axis 6y agoGood luck getting people to move to other countries as a way to avoid driving home to their family and comfy bed after a hard day's work.
- konschubert 6y agoAll I’m saying is that you shouldn’t drive if you’re unfit to drive. And presenting it as a no-choice situation is a fallacy.
- Silhouette 6y agoEver known someone that works two jobs trying to make ends meet? You don't have a choice except to drive home from work. And will it be easier to make those ends meet when you are dead, or paralysed, or locked up because you left someone else dead or paralysed? The arguments that a few people are making here, as if not driving while so tired you might fall asleep would cause some devastating loss to society and herald the end of life as we know it, are just silly. Only a very small number of drivers would be affected, because fortunately most people aren't so irresponsible in the first place. And given the extremely high likelihood of those few drivers getting themselves and, worse, possibly many other people injured or dead, with all the negative consequences that will imply, it still doesn't make sense from a greater good perspective.
- root_axis 6y agoVery few people get behind the wheel thinking "I'm so tired I might die on the ride home", they think "it's just down the street, I can't wait to get home and pass out". Many times people feel totally fine when they get behind the wheel but don't start to feel tired till part way through the ride. You're holding people to a standard that doesn't jive with reality.
- drusepth 6y ago>And will it be easier to make those ends meet when you are dead, or paralysed, or locked up because you left someone else dead or paralysed? Oftentimes for people forced to work 2, 3, 4 or more jobs just to survive, these are also acceptable "solutions" to the problem. The risk analysis comes down to [low chance of dying now driving impaired] versus [medium chance of dying later, homeless/starving after losing job(s)]. I once arrived at work with blood all over my face, neck, and hands from biting my lips to stay awake. Autopilot is so far, far, far out of reach for most people working multiple jobs that it's really a non-issue not worth debating for a long time, but the technology behind it would be a literal lifesaver if it were more widely available to the unfortunately large population of people that are forced to drive regardless of mental state in order to survive and/or provide for their families and/or other circumstances "out of their control".