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Hm... are you suggesting that Tesla's motivation here might be to develop a logging system to defend itself against liability claims by demonstrating that the d

Hm... are you suggesting that Tesla's motivation here might be to develop a logging system to defend itself against liability claims by demonstrating that the driver was not paying attention, as opposed to a system to take measures at the time to prevent the crash? I would regard doing the former, while not the latter, to be deeply unethical, as, at least in my book, motive matters. I am not saying thet I expect Tesla to do so, but it is possible that the incentives could be to do just that: for example, if it turns out to be impractical to produce an effective warning and intervention system that is not regarded as too intrusive by its customers. Don't take that route, Tesla. Nothing but either true (not necessarily perfect) self-driving, or effective monitoring and intervention, is acceptable.

tripzilch 6y ago
> I am not saying thet I expect Tesla to do so Why? Did they suddenly engineer themselves into a new type of corporation that doesn't drop its ethics at the first opportunity? I have nothing specifically against Tesla, but I fully expect them to simply do whatever if they are incentivised by the right profit structure. The "best" corporations have disappointed me in this manner, no shame on Tesla for existing, but that is what it will do, given the chance. "Tesla" is not your human friend that you can talk to or appease in the hope that it won't do what is its nature. Talking into the void won't tame it.
judge2020 6y ago
Not really, the system primarily exists for two reasons: 1) in case future regulation requires "monitoring if the driver is paying attention to the road" and 2) for their robo-taxi service that might or might not come out within the next 5 years as Elon says (hint: it will not) I own a Tesla and would love if this internal camera were to be available to Sentry mode/saved with dashcam footage (for insurance reasons, internal dashcams are great for strengthening the driver's case), but that's not possible currently.

tripzilch 6y ago

> I am not saying thet I expect Tesla to do so Why? Did they suddenly engineer themselves into a new type of corporation that doesn't drop its ethics at the first opportunity? I have nothing specifically against Tesla, but I fully expect them to simply do whatever if they are incentivised by the right profit structure. The "best" corporations have disappointed me in this manner, no shame on Tesla for existing, but that is what it will do, given the chance. "Tesla" is not your human friend that you can talk to or appease in the hope that it won't do what is its nature. Talking into the void won't tame it.

judge2020 6y ago

Not really, the system primarily exists for two reasons: 1) in case future regulation requires "monitoring if the driver is paying attention to the road" and 2) for their robo-taxi service that might or might not come out within the next 5 years as Elon says (hint: it will not) I own a Tesla and would love if this internal camera were to be available to Sentry mode/saved with dashcam footage (for insurance reasons, internal dashcams are great for strengthening the driver's case), but that's not possible currently.