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Comments on the site itself are pure gold as some are pointing out the various (mostly humorous) events that are not being actively tracked with their driver-fa

Comments on the site itself are pure gold as some are pointing out the various (mostly humorous) events that are not being actively tracked with their driver-facing camera. I will try to compile this list below: - DRIVER_ON_PASSENGER_SIDE - DRIVER_MISSING - DRIVER_PICKING_BOOGERS - DRIVER_SEAT_FULLY_RECLINED - DRIVER_SNORING - DRIVER_SHAVING - DRIVER_VAPING - DRIVER_LIVESTREAMING - DRIVER_ADJUSTING_MAKEUP - DRIVER_APPLYING_LIPSTICK - PASSENGER_ON_DRIVER - PASSENGER_UNDER_DRIVER

GordonS 6y ago
> - DRIVER_SHAVING > - DRIVER_ADJUSTING_MAKEUP > - DRIVER_APPLYING_LIPSTICK I've actually seen drivers doing all 3 of these. The shaving (with an electric razor, obviously) I only saw once, but I frequently see women applying makeup and lipstick.
- kelvin0 6y ago
  If someone comes up with a autonomous mobile hair salon/manicure/pedicure/waxing/make up vehicle, there is certainly a huge opportunity.
- snapetom 6y ago
  A couple of friends of mine prototyped a site dedicated to distracted drivers on I-5 in Seattle ala the Highway 17 Hall of Shame. It was just too easy. My favorite, though, and I still have the pic, was a guy, who I presume to be a solider, driving a military truck with a big ol' binder open on his lap.
  - colanderman 6y ago
    Best I've seen was a woman with a laptop open, between her and her steering wheel. (Morning commute on I-90 in MA.) I honked at her enough to shame her into putting it away at least while I was near her.
- athenot 6y ago
  Relevant Mr Bean episode where all these dangerous things are done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuQctvKNLg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuQctvKNLg
- rndgermandude 6y ago
  I have seen drivers in huge cargo trucks read the newspaper on the autobahn (the newspaper strategically positioned over the steering wheel, of course), or watch TV. Scary shit. One guy was very interested in his porn mag, one hand holding the mag the other hand "occupied" too, so he somehow steered with his knees. One day I drove with a fellow student to some university event, and he suddenly at a red light took out an electric razor and started shaving. "Want me to take over and drive?" "Nah, you're not insured to drive this car" (true). And the makeup thing too, seen that a lot of times, once even two ladies (driver and passenger) in the next car applying eye makeup at the same time, as if to make sure neither of them could watch the traffic. But nothing beats the guy who was so deep down in his seat he was barely visible except for his feet on his dashboard. He apparently thought that being able to use the brake was optional on the autobahn. I can only hope that his car was one of the rare special fitted cars that had a hand operated break paddle, tho the car's steering column looked pretty regular from my POV.
  - mleonhard 6y ago
    Would you immediately report such drivers to the police?
    - nojvek 6y ago
      I’d be careful reporting things to the American police. You may get the other person in a lot more trouble than they deserve depending on their skin color.
- stcredzero 6y ago
  I've seen someone bury her head in the passenger-side footwell while merging into traffic while making a turn onto a busy 4-lane city thoroughfare! (No, there was no passenger.) I had to brake to let her by.
- m463 6y ago
  need to step up production of the 5th element makeup applicator https://youtu.be/eo4Ui53Ch1A https://youtu.be/eo4Ui53Ch1A
colanderman 6y ago
How about DOG_ON_DASHBOARD and DOG_IN_LAP. Seriously; you are operating heavy and deadly equipment. Keep your pets in the back seat at least.
- dosshell 6y ago
  There was a demo at CES this year that detected the position of a dog in the car [0]. let's hope it gets to market soon. [0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2yRaztxSEQw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2yRaztxSEQw
cwhiz 6y ago
DRIVER_PLAYING_TRUMPET
protomyth 6y ago
I know of at least one person who would be tagged as DRIVER_READING_BOOK
stcredzero 6y ago
I really want to know what HEAD_TRUNC in the actual symbol list means. I totally read that as "head truncated," as in the Florida man who perished in a Tesla while watching Harry Potter. Also, you could add more items like, DRIVER_ON_PASSENGER_TOP.
- skykooler 6y ago
  I suspect it means "head truncated from the camera's viewpoint", as in there is something blocking the top of the driver's face (a brimmed hat, for example) that prevents the camera from figuring out where they're looking.
specialist 6y ago
Huh. I just assumed that Tesla is monitoring the driver to detect surprise. I also assume that Tesla's awesome sauce onboard AI is running a simulation. For both the driver and other vehicles. Make predictions, gather actuals, continuously try to narrow the delta. Forward anything really weird up to the mother ship for detailed analysis. Knowing when the driver is surprised would be a pretty good signal. If both the driver and the simulation are surprised, then the simulation could infer which events were way out of scope. I have no reason, data, or insight for my conjecture. It's just how I'd do it. And would account for why the onboard computer is so beefy.
fuzxi 6y ago
PASSENGER_UNDER_DRIVER is making me think a lot harder than I expected to.
- Zenbit_UX 6y ago
  Is that because you're a virgin?
- mdorazio 6y ago
  Passenger and driver are both in driver seat, but driver is sitting in passenger's lap. Sex may be involved...
pmontra 6y ago
DRIVER_READING_NEWSPAPER I saw it on a highway. The driver had a 9 columns newspaper open on the steering wheel, hopefully hands on the wheel. Probably at least 130 km/h. It was before the web.
dafoex 6y ago
DRIVER_VAPING would be dangerous for Tesla because it has a chance to obscure their camera's view of the driver, meaning they can't accurately blame known autopilot faults on driver inattention.

GordonS 6y ago

> - DRIVER_SHAVING > - DRIVER_ADJUSTING_MAKEUP > - DRIVER_APPLYING_LIPSTICK I've actually seen drivers doing all 3 of these. The shaving (with an electric razor, obviously) I only saw once, but I frequently see women applying makeup and lipstick.

kelvin0 6y ago
If someone comes up with a autonomous mobile hair salon/manicure/pedicure/waxing/make up vehicle, there is certainly a huge opportunity.
snapetom 6y ago
A couple of friends of mine prototyped a site dedicated to distracted drivers on I-5 in Seattle ala the Highway 17 Hall of Shame. It was just too easy. My favorite, though, and I still have the pic, was a guy, who I presume to be a solider, driving a military truck with a big ol' binder open on his lap.
- colanderman 6y ago
  Best I've seen was a woman with a laptop open, between her and her steering wheel. (Morning commute on I-90 in MA.) I honked at her enough to shame her into putting it away at least while I was near her.
athenot 6y ago
Relevant Mr Bean episode where all these dangerous things are done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuQctvKNLg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYuQctvKNLg
rndgermandude 6y ago
I have seen drivers in huge cargo trucks read the newspaper on the autobahn (the newspaper strategically positioned over the steering wheel, of course), or watch TV. Scary shit. One guy was very interested in his porn mag, one hand holding the mag the other hand "occupied" too, so he somehow steered with his knees. One day I drove with a fellow student to some university event, and he suddenly at a red light took out an electric razor and started shaving. "Want me to take over and drive?" "Nah, you're not insured to drive this car" (true). And the makeup thing too, seen that a lot of times, once even two ladies (driver and passenger) in the next car applying eye makeup at the same time, as if to make sure neither of them could watch the traffic. But nothing beats the guy who was so deep down in his seat he was barely visible except for his feet on his dashboard. He apparently thought that being able to use the brake was optional on the autobahn. I can only hope that his car was one of the rare special fitted cars that had a hand operated break paddle, tho the car's steering column looked pretty regular from my POV.
- mleonhard 6y ago
  Would you immediately report such drivers to the police?
  - nojvek 6y ago
    I’d be careful reporting things to the American police. You may get the other person in a lot more trouble than they deserve depending on their skin color.
stcredzero 6y ago
I've seen someone bury her head in the passenger-side footwell while merging into traffic while making a turn onto a busy 4-lane city thoroughfare! (No, there was no passenger.) I had to brake to let her by.
m463 6y ago
need to step up production of the 5th element makeup applicator https://youtu.be/eo4Ui53Ch1A https://youtu.be/eo4Ui53Ch1A

colanderman 6y ago

How about DOG_ON_DASHBOARD and DOG_IN_LAP. Seriously; you are operating heavy and deadly equipment. Keep your pets in the back seat at least.

dosshell 6y ago
There was a demo at CES this year that detected the position of a dog in the car [0]. let's hope it gets to market soon. [0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2yRaztxSEQw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2yRaztxSEQw

cwhiz 6y ago

DRIVER_PLAYING_TRUMPET

protomyth 6y ago

I know of at least one person who would be tagged as DRIVER_READING_BOOK

stcredzero 6y ago

I really want to know what HEAD_TRUNC in the actual symbol list means. I totally read that as "head truncated," as in the Florida man who perished in a Tesla while watching Harry Potter. Also, you could add more items like, DRIVER_ON_PASSENGER_TOP.

skykooler 6y ago
I suspect it means "head truncated from the camera's viewpoint", as in there is something blocking the top of the driver's face (a brimmed hat, for example) that prevents the camera from figuring out where they're looking.

specialist 6y ago

Huh. I just assumed that Tesla is monitoring the driver to detect surprise. I also assume that Tesla's awesome sauce onboard AI is running a simulation. For both the driver and other vehicles. Make predictions, gather actuals, continuously try to narrow the delta. Forward anything really weird up to the mother ship for detailed analysis. Knowing when the driver is surprised would be a pretty good signal. If both the driver and the simulation are surprised, then the simulation could infer which events were way out of scope. I have no reason, data, or insight for my conjecture. It's just how I'd do it. And would account for why the onboard computer is so beefy.

fuzxi 6y ago

PASSENGER_UNDER_DRIVER is making me think a lot harder than I expected to.

Zenbit_UX 6y ago
Is that because you're a virgin?
mdorazio 6y ago
Passenger and driver are both in driver seat, but driver is sitting in passenger's lap. Sex may be involved...

pmontra 6y ago

DRIVER_READING_NEWSPAPER I saw it on a highway. The driver had a 9 columns newspaper open on the steering wheel, hopefully hands on the wheel. Probably at least 130 km/h. It was before the web.

dafoex 6y ago

DRIVER_VAPING would be dangerous for Tesla because it has a chance to obscure their camera's view of the driver, meaning they can't accurately blame known autopilot faults on driver inattention.