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Privacy is already dead (or at least, on life support). I'm personally not giving in easily, and certainly wouldn't buy a car with a camera I don't control poi

Privacy is already dead (or at least, on life support). I'm personally not giving in easily, and certainly wouldn't buy a car with a camera I don't control pointed at my face. That is absurd to me. However, most people just see this only as a safety issue. They're willing to compromise a lot of privacy for a little increase in safety. That's not objectively wrong, but I disagree with it. If I could audit my records, store everything locally, and be ensured there's no way to access this data without my consent, then I'd be more into the idea. But right now... I'm just going to keep my old Prius going for as long as I can.

huid827 6y ago
What do you people do in your cars that concerns you so much from a privacy standpoint, other than pick your nose?
- netsharc 6y ago
  Do Teslas (or other cars) phone home and report where they've been? (DriveNow BMWs, which are technically rentals, do that, so they have that capability.) Have you driven anywhere where -- if you were to run for office -- you wouldn't want the public to know? Or, how would you change your behavior and places you visited if you knew you were "being watched"?
- VRay 6y ago
  I attend meetings to plot the overthrow of the government if it impinges my freedom Relevant: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uighurs&iar=news&ia=news https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uighurs&iar=news&ia=news
- Biganon 6y ago
  I talk to myself, a lot. And I talk to others as well. How is this not a privacy concern? I also look sad, or look happy. I really don't want anyone to be able to sell me things based on the days I smile the most.
aeternum 6y ago
>If I could audit my records, store everything locally, and be ensured there's no way to access this data without my consent, then I'd be more into the idea. But right now... I'm just going to keep my old Prius going for as long as I can. This really seems like the right way to go about it. If all Tesla sees are those pre-defined flags (EYES_OPEN, HEAD_DOWN, etc.) then I would consider the tradeoff worthwhile. With an unrestricted video stream, car manufacturers can & will use that data to determine your insurance rate, whether your are using the car for personal vs. rideshare purposes, etc.

huid827 6y ago

What do you people do in your cars that concerns you so much from a privacy standpoint, other than pick your nose?

netsharc 6y ago
Do Teslas (or other cars) phone home and report where they've been? (DriveNow BMWs, which are technically rentals, do that, so they have that capability.) Have you driven anywhere where -- if you were to run for office -- you wouldn't want the public to know? Or, how would you change your behavior and places you visited if you knew you were "being watched"?
VRay 6y ago
I attend meetings to plot the overthrow of the government if it impinges my freedom Relevant: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uighurs&iar=news&ia=news https://duckduckgo.com/?q=uighurs&iar=news&ia=news
Biganon 6y ago
I talk to myself, a lot. And I talk to others as well. How is this not a privacy concern? I also look sad, or look happy. I really don't want anyone to be able to sell me things based on the days I smile the most.

aeternum 6y ago

>If I could audit my records, store everything locally, and be ensured there's no way to access this data without my consent, then I'd be more into the idea. But right now... I'm just going to keep my old Prius going for as long as I can. This really seems like the right way to go about it. If all Tesla sees are those pre-defined flags (EYES_OPEN, HEAD_DOWN, etc.) then I would consider the tradeoff worthwhile. With an unrestricted video stream, car manufacturers can & will use that data to determine your insurance rate, whether your are using the car for personal vs. rideshare purposes, etc.