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Have you considered that the people you told don't really believe you are as expert as you claim, or believe that you were overdramatizing the situation? > The

by shawnz 6y ago

Have you considered that the people you told don't really believe you are as expert as you claim, or believe that you were overdramatizing the situation? > They just have to understand one fact: they don't actually own what they're spending their money on. The consequences of losing access don't necessarily follow from that though. Lots of people for example understand the principle of leasing an apartment or car, and in those cases it's much harder for the true owner to arbitrarily take the property away from you. > Actually I have a radical opinion: copyright should be abolished and it should be illegal to implement DRM in any form. Radical opinions further tell people that you are not being pragmatic about what you are saying and therefore it can't be very practical advice. That is another reason why I expect people weren't receptive to your warnings.

matheusmoreira 6y ago
> Have you considered that the people you told don't really believe you are as expert as you claim, or believe that you were overdramatizing the situation? I don't claim to be an expert. I'm just a guy who cares a lot about this stuff. I suppose I can be dramatic but I don't think that makes me wrong. > The consequences of losing access don't necessarily follow from that though. Currently, they do. That could change in the future but right now when people spend money on media they're merely buying some company's permission to enjoy some content. That permission can be revoked at any time and for any reason or no reason. > Lots of people for example understand the principle of leasing an apartment or car, and in those cases it's much harder for the true owner to arbitrarily take the property away from you. People aren't leasing content though. They're buying it. They buy books, they buy video games... > it can't be very practical advice Ignoring copyright is actually the most practical advice there is. Everybody understands how to do it. I've yet to meet a single person who has never infringed copyright. People do it without even realizing it. It's how people naturally operate, especially on the internet. When people want something, they right click on it and save it. Nobody really thinks about the creator's rights to monopolize imaginary property. The only problem with this advice is it's technically illegal. We can fix this by abolishing copyright.
- shawnz 6y ago
  > Currently, they do. That could change in the future but right now when people spend money on media they're merely buying some company's permission to enjoy some content. That permission can be revoked at any time and for any reason or no reason. I think you are misunderstanding my point. What I am saying is that most people's expectation of leasing/renting arrangements is such that there are protections in place to prevent the thing from being arbitrarily taken away. However those protections don't exist for software services, only physical things like cars and apartments. Thus it is a violation of peoples' expectations that software services don't have those protections. So it is not enough to simply tell them, "You don't own it and that's the problem". That does not fully explain the problem. In order to fully explain the problem you would need to explain how not only do you not own it, but ALSO there are no legal protections to prevent it from arbitrarily being taken away like a layperson might expect there to be such a situation. > People aren't leasing content though. They're buying it. They buy books, they buy video games... Earlier you just said that users don't own the content... so which is it?

by shawnz 6y ago

matheusmoreira 6y ago

> Have you considered that the people you told don't really believe you are as expert as you claim, or believe that you were overdramatizing the situation? I don't claim to be an expert. I'm just a guy who cares a lot about this stuff. I suppose I can be dramatic but I don't think that makes me wrong. > The consequences of losing access don't necessarily follow from that though. Currently, they do. That could change in the future but right now when people spend money on media they're merely buying some company's permission to enjoy some content. That permission can be revoked at any time and for any reason or no reason. > Lots of people for example understand the principle of leasing an apartment or car, and in those cases it's much harder for the true owner to arbitrarily take the property away from you. People aren't leasing content though. They're buying it. They buy books, they buy video games... > it can't be very practical advice Ignoring copyright is actually the most practical advice there is. Everybody understands how to do it. I've yet to meet a single person who has never infringed copyright. People do it without even realizing it. It's how people naturally operate, especially on the internet. When people want something, they right click on it and save it. Nobody really thinks about the creator's rights to monopolize imaginary property. The only problem with this advice is it's technically illegal. We can fix this by abolishing copyright.

shawnz 6y ago
> Currently, they do. That could change in the future but right now when people spend money on media they're merely buying some company's permission to enjoy some content. That permission can be revoked at any time and for any reason or no reason. I think you are misunderstanding my point. What I am saying is that most people's expectation of leasing/renting arrangements is such that there are protections in place to prevent the thing from being arbitrarily taken away. However those protections don't exist for software services, only physical things like cars and apartments. Thus it is a violation of peoples' expectations that software services don't have those protections. So it is not enough to simply tell them, "You don't own it and that's the problem". That does not fully explain the problem. In order to fully explain the problem you would need to explain how not only do you not own it, but ALSO there are no legal protections to prevent it from arbitrarily being taken away like a layperson might expect there to be such a situation. > People aren't leasing content though. They're buying it. They buy books, they buy video games... Earlier you just said that users don't own the content... so which is it?