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Can you show evidence of any bias in the testing? Could it be possible its not biased? Asians are a historically disadvantaged population who have had to ensur

Can you show evidence of any bias in the testing? Could it be possible its not biased? Asians are a historically disadvantaged population who have had to ensure so much racism in USA, yet unlike blacks in recent decades they've had huge upward mobility on all social and economic indicators. So how have the supposed racist biases in tests changed to allow asians to surpass the dominant whites yet blacks and latinos continue to struggle?

throwwy_immgrnt 6y ago
Asians and immigrants tend to value education because it can offer a path to a higher standard of living and coming over to the US kinda self selected for the type of people with an upbringing that valued education and the willingness to take risks in unknown territory (even if it's because life in their country of origin was really bad). This is why Asians/immigrants and their children have a disproportionate occupation of seats in high caliber schools and jobs at well paying companies in the US. There's a couple problems with saying this out loud though: 1. Some people are reluctant to admit that culture may be a nontrivial part of the reason why some groups of people do better than other groups in academics. 2. People are thinking too much about race when i think immigration is a bigger factor. Children of people from African countries excel in US schools too. For those interested, you may want to look into studies relating to the 'immigrant paradox in the US' to learn more. EDIT: just to clarify something: I'm all for immigration and I wish the current administration wasn't so anti-immigrant. This country has prospered from the work of immigrants and I absolutely think non-immigrants should compete with immigrants instead of acting entitled and pretending like some immigrants took their good jobs. Just because you were born on the right soil doesn't mean you deserve a better chance at getting a job. And immigrants pay taxes too.
eikenberry 6y ago
A certain percentage of people just have test taking anxiety or other issues that impede their ability to test well. If you judge only on the results of a test, then you've just eliminated all those people from the start. But then our school system tends to already be biased against such people so it wouldn't really be that out of line.

throwwy_immgrnt 6y ago

Asians and immigrants tend to value education because it can offer a path to a higher standard of living and coming over to the US kinda self selected for the type of people with an upbringing that valued education and the willingness to take risks in unknown territory (even if it's because life in their country of origin was really bad). This is why Asians/immigrants and their children have a disproportionate occupation of seats in high caliber schools and jobs at well paying companies in the US. There's a couple problems with saying this out loud though: 1. Some people are reluctant to admit that culture may be a nontrivial part of the reason why some groups of people do better than other groups in academics. 2. People are thinking too much about race when i think immigration is a bigger factor. Children of people from African countries excel in US schools too. For those interested, you may want to look into studies relating to the 'immigrant paradox in the US' to learn more. EDIT: just to clarify something: I'm all for immigration and I wish the current administration wasn't so anti-immigrant. This country has prospered from the work of immigrants and I absolutely think non-immigrants should compete with immigrants instead of acting entitled and pretending like some immigrants took their good jobs. Just because you were born on the right soil doesn't mean you deserve a better chance at getting a job. And immigrants pay taxes too.

eikenberry 6y ago

A certain percentage of people just have test taking anxiety or other issues that impede their ability to test well. If you judge only on the results of a test, then you've just eliminated all those people from the start. But then our school system tends to already be biased against such people so it wouldn't really be that out of line.