There's way more to this than just the containers (the apps) themselves though. Orchestration is a very big piece of the puzzle, integrating into that layer is

There's way more to this than just the containers (the apps) themselves though. Orchestration is a very big piece of the puzzle, integrating into that layer is traditionally very cloud specific. Without a common orchestration layer you end up re-inventing the wheel a lot. Containers being a common interface is good, but having the orchestration have a common interface (k8s) is also important.