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It sounds like you're confusing Assange and Snowden.

gjs278 6y ago
it sounds like you’re just confused. neither one of them is a russian asset. maybe you are by intentionally spreading misinformation
CalChris 6y ago
Something about Snowden fleeing to Russia makes that confusion difficult to accept.
- dijit 6y ago
  US govt did that to him. He was trying to get to Ecuador from HK when his passport was revoked mid-route. Russia gave him asylum, for reasons which are not related to him helping them, purely because it antagonises the US. He still openly criticised the Russian government, and has expressed strong desire to come back to the US.
- tshaddox 6y ago
  Why is it confusing that he would flee to somewhere where the US couldn’t easily extradite him, throw him in a “detention center,” give him an unfair trial, or assassinate him?
- pengaru 6y ago
  Assange and Snowden are widely known to be conflated among the general public. [0] I don't personally think either of these people are or have ever knowingly been Russian assets. But that's not the point. Particularly after the Special Counsel investigation, Assange/Wikileaks has been portrayed quite publicly through a credible federal investigation as being used as a puppet for distributing Russian-acquired documents. Snowden clearly ended up in Russia for lack of options when fleeing HK. There's never been any credible allegations of a Russian affiliation outside of that AFAIK. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M&t=8m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M&t=8m
outoftheabyss 6y ago
Amazing how Assange suddenly became a Russian asset after 2016, this charge never appeared when he spent years going after the Bush admin
- pengaru 6y ago
  The Special Counsel investigation publicizing a Russian connection to Wikileaks' release of Hillary Clinton's damaging emails was far more recent than 2016 [0]. For myself, and I presume much of the general public, that would be the point in time where awareness of Assange's role in an alleged Russia-involved conspiracy manifest. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017%E2%80%932019)#Russian_election_interference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_...
  - outoftheabyss 6y ago
    I said after 2016. Wikileaks is a media company that reports info/intel from their sources, no different from the NYT, CNN, fox etc. There were no questions coming from these sections of the general public and the media you allude to when it was bush and it's very convenient for the intelligence community to discredit where they can. Snowden addresses the case against Assange in his latest episode on Joe Rogan, a very interesting listen.
- seppin 6y ago
  > Assange suddenly became a Russian asset after 2016 Assange had a TV show on Russian State television in 2012.

it sounds like you’re just confused. neither one of them is a russian asset. maybe you are by intentionally spreading misinformation

CalChris 6y ago

Something about Snowden fleeing to Russia makes that confusion difficult to accept.

dijit 6y ago
US govt did that to him. He was trying to get to Ecuador from HK when his passport was revoked mid-route. Russia gave him asylum, for reasons which are not related to him helping them, purely because it antagonises the US. He still openly criticised the Russian government, and has expressed strong desire to come back to the US.
tshaddox 6y ago
Why is it confusing that he would flee to somewhere where the US couldn’t easily extradite him, throw him in a “detention center,” give him an unfair trial, or assassinate him?
pengaru 6y ago
Assange and Snowden are widely known to be conflated among the general public. [0] I don't personally think either of these people are or have ever knowingly been Russian assets. But that's not the point. Particularly after the Special Counsel investigation, Assange/Wikileaks has been portrayed quite publicly through a credible federal investigation as being used as a puppet for distributing Russian-acquired documents. Snowden clearly ended up in Russia for lack of options when fleeing HK. There's never been any credible allegations of a Russian affiliation outside of that AFAIK. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M&t=8m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEVlyP4_11M&t=8m

outoftheabyss 6y ago

Amazing how Assange suddenly became a Russian asset after 2016, this charge never appeared when he spent years going after the Bush admin

pengaru 6y ago
The Special Counsel investigation publicizing a Russian connection to Wikileaks' release of Hillary Clinton's damaging emails was far more recent than 2016 [0]. For myself, and I presume much of the general public, that would be the point in time where awareness of Assange's role in an alleged Russia-involved conspiracy manifest. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_(2017%E2%80%932019)#Russian_election_interference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Counsel_investigation_...
- outoftheabyss 6y ago
  I said after 2016. Wikileaks is a media company that reports info/intel from their sources, no different from the NYT, CNN, fox etc. There were no questions coming from these sections of the general public and the media you allude to when it was bush and it's very convenient for the intelligence community to discredit where they can. Snowden addresses the case against Assange in his latest episode on Joe Rogan, a very interesting listen.
seppin 6y ago
> Assange suddenly became a Russian asset after 2016 Assange had a TV show on Russian State television in 2012.