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Perhaps. I know that a number of objectively hateful subreddits were not banned because they were hateful of people "in the majority" (whatever that means). An

Perhaps. I know that a number of objectively hateful subreddits were not banned because they were hateful of people "in the majority" (whatever that means). An archived copy of Reddit's "Account and Community Restrictions" from the time of the ban reads as such [0]: > While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect all groups or all forms of identity. For example, the rule does not protect groups of people who are in the majority or who promote such attacks of hate. The question here veers into the territory of whether Reddit is a "publisher" or "platform". Their editorial decision to ban certain kinds of loosely-defined "hate" seems to clearly point to them being an editorializing publisher of content. This, in addition to their editing of user's posts criticizing their core team [1] and other such egregious acts. There's no compelling reason for me to believe Reddit acted in good faith. [0]: https://web.archive.org/web/20200701001008/https://www.reddithelp.com/en/categories/rules-reporting/account-and-community-restrictions/promoting-hate-based-identity-or https://web.archive.org/web/20200701001008/https://www.reddi... [1]: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-ceo-edits-user-comments_n_5839cf32e4b000af95ee5b68 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reddit-ceo-edits-user-comment...

watwut 6y ago
I assume those not banned subs are still there and you can link them. Because whole ton of subs were banned, not just Donald and not just right wing.
- rapsey 6y ago
  If rules applied to all subs the same topmindsofreddit would have been banned long ago
- zapdrive 6y ago
  [1] is an example of a hate sub against men that's not banned by reddit. But [2] is just a group of men who have decided to never date, marry etc. is quarantined because somehow that is hate. Also how are women a minority when they are 50% of the population? Baffles me. 1 https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/ 2 https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/
  - DavidVoid 6y ago
    Both those subs are sexist garbage and MGTOW is not "just a group of men who have decided to never date, marry etc.". It's a shitty community that frequently promotes sexist garbage like this [1, 2]. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/i3dqzi/very_superficial/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/i3dqzi/very_superfic... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/iwaqm5/we_equality_now/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/iwaqm5/we_equality_n...
DavidVoid 6y ago
> I know that a number of objectively hateful subreddits were not banned because they were hateful of people "in the majority" (whatever that means). Don't be vague, give concrete examples if you're going to make broad statements like that. > The question here veers into the territory of whether Reddit is a "publisher" or "platform". Well are subreddits "publishers" or "platforms" then? Because a lot of the hateful subs that have been shut down over the years (t_D, uncensorednews, European, etc.) banned users who disagreed with their moderators.
- sebmellen 6y ago
  Subreddits are composed of communities which (in theory) are self-moderating. The communities themselves can be publishers or platforms, the question here is about whether or not Reddit should have the editorial authority to delete subreddits at will. Here is a small list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities#Active_subreddits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti.... Most of these subreddits are not Nazi or Stalinist-level hateful, but could still be considered hateful (the definition of hate is actually very shaky, I regret saying "objectively hateful" in my above comment). I could back to you with a longer list of more underground subreddits, though I don't really have the time to. You can go to something like https://reddit.guide https://reddit.guide and search for subreddits similar to the ones banned. Plenty are still active, just much smaller.
- k33n 6y ago
  Why do you guys always call t_d a hate sub? It was a Trump fan sub. Dedicated to positive content about Trump. It was the complete opposite of hateful, of course. Now, take the far left sub “/r/politics” which actively promotes hatred against half of the United States. Threats of violence against law enforcement abound there. Calls for actual bloodshed and violent “revolution” constantly. Subreddits are private or public communities that all have their own rules for what can be posted. Reddit itself is a publisher. Legally speaking, they curate a collection of subreddits and publish them. Reddit (and other pro-communist and anti-American publishers like Twitter) will likely face massive legal action from the DOJ if Americans vote to give Trump a second term. I for one can’t wait to see these commies bite the dust in federal court!

watwut 6y ago

I assume those not banned subs are still there and you can link them. Because whole ton of subs were banned, not just Donald and not just right wing.

rapsey 6y ago
If rules applied to all subs the same topmindsofreddit would have been banned long ago
zapdrive 6y ago
[1] is an example of a hate sub against men that's not banned by reddit. But [2] is just a group of men who have decided to never date, marry etc. is quarantined because somehow that is hate. Also how are women a minority when they are 50% of the population? Baffles me. 1 https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/ https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/ 2 https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/ https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/
- DavidVoid 6y ago
  Both those subs are sexist garbage and MGTOW is not "just a group of men who have decided to never date, marry etc.". It's a shitty community that frequently promotes sexist garbage like this [1, 2]. [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/i3dqzi/very_superficial/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/i3dqzi/very_superfic... [2] https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/iwaqm5/we_equality_now/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/iwaqm5/we_equality_n...

DavidVoid 6y ago

> I know that a number of objectively hateful subreddits were not banned because they were hateful of people "in the majority" (whatever that means). Don't be vague, give concrete examples if you're going to make broad statements like that. > The question here veers into the territory of whether Reddit is a "publisher" or "platform". Well are subreddits "publishers" or "platforms" then? Because a lot of the hateful subs that have been shut down over the years (t_D, uncensorednews, European, etc.) banned users who disagreed with their moderators.

sebmellen 6y ago
Subreddits are composed of communities which (in theory) are self-moderating. The communities themselves can be publishers or platforms, the question here is about whether or not Reddit should have the editorial authority to delete subreddits at will. Here is a small list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communities#Active_subreddits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti.... Most of these subreddits are not Nazi or Stalinist-level hateful, but could still be considered hateful (the definition of hate is actually very shaky, I regret saying "objectively hateful" in my above comment). I could back to you with a longer list of more underground subreddits, though I don't really have the time to. You can go to something like https://reddit.guide https://reddit.guide and search for subreddits similar to the ones banned. Plenty are still active, just much smaller.
k33n 6y ago
Why do you guys always call t_d a hate sub? It was a Trump fan sub. Dedicated to positive content about Trump. It was the complete opposite of hateful, of course. Now, take the far left sub “/r/politics” which actively promotes hatred against half of the United States. Threats of violence against law enforcement abound there. Calls for actual bloodshed and violent “revolution” constantly. Subreddits are private or public communities that all have their own rules for what can be posted. Reddit itself is a publisher. Legally speaking, they curate a collection of subreddits and publish them. Reddit (and other pro-communist and anti-American publishers like Twitter) will likely face massive legal action from the DOJ if Americans vote to give Trump a second term. I for one can’t wait to see these commies bite the dust in federal court!