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> “ Yes, there are "basically" two manufacturers of airliners if you define airliner as "planes made by Boeing and Airbus" and ignore... all the other airliners

> “ Yes, there are "basically" two manufacturers of airliners if you define airliner as "planes made by Boeing and Airbus" and ignore... all the other airliners. Without CRJs, E-Jets and Q400s the US airline industry doesn't exist as it does today.” I think it is safe to say that Airbus and Boeing hold a strong duopoly in their market segment—similar to Apple and Google in mobile actually. [0] Yes you are right about the airline alliances. > Do you have a more compelling reason than "maybe" to suggest why changing these regulations back to a model that was already shown to be anti competitive would provide better service? Maybe there would be benefits to consumers if a manufacturers focused more on user experience? Maybe service would be cheaper. Maybe more planes like the 787 would be built. I’m not necessarily advocating for this, I’m just not convinced an anti-trust case from 100 years ago over mail delivery, before modern airlines existed, is a solid reason to keep the law in place [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_between_Airbus_and_Boeing?wprov=sfti1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_between_Airbus_and...

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mulmen 6y ago
Do you think modern airlines would exist without the current regulations? If not why is now the time to deregulate? What changed?
- thethethethe 6y ago
  > Do you think modern airlines would exist without the current regulations? No, but this is to my point. The current airlines in the United States are trash and have been getting worse throughout my lifetime. I don’t necessarily believe deregulation is the answer, I just don’t buy that this particular type of “trust” would be a problem for the market these days. Vertically integrated companies are successful because they are efficient and it seems silly to punish companies for achieving this
  - mulmen 6y ago
    That depends on your definition of "success". You have identified why vertically integrated companies are successful in terms of profitability. That does not in any way imply they provide a higher level of service, which is my point. What is it specifically about airlines that are "trash" today? How was it better in the past?

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mulmen 6y ago

Do you think modern airlines would exist without the current regulations? If not why is now the time to deregulate? What changed?

thethethethe 6y ago
> Do you think modern airlines would exist without the current regulations? No, but this is to my point. The current airlines in the United States are trash and have been getting worse throughout my lifetime. I don’t necessarily believe deregulation is the answer, I just don’t buy that this particular type of “trust” would be a problem for the market these days. Vertically integrated companies are successful because they are efficient and it seems silly to punish companies for achieving this
- mulmen 6y ago
  That depends on your definition of "success". You have identified why vertically integrated companies are successful in terms of profitability. That does not in any way imply they provide a higher level of service, which is my point. What is it specifically about airlines that are "trash" today? How was it better in the past?