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There's stuff about voting specifics I think, what specifically are you thinking of?

johnchristopher 6y ago
Article 4, section 2 `The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.` but that is not what's important: 1. Why do you say the constitution has nothing to do with citizens or non-citizens when some articles are about them and their rights ? 2. Why do you disagree that the preamble establishes that the document is from and about the people of the united states (and doesn't apply to non-US people/citizens) ?
- eropple 6y ago
  It is by no means settled that "the people of the United States" is explicitly and specifically citizenry and not aliens currently in the country for clauses not so specifying "citizens".
  - johnchristopher 6y ago
    Ah, I understand now. Thanks. A quick Google search returns accounts of many debates about it (I should have mentioned I am not a US citizen, nor am I living in the US. I usually do, my bad).
    - eropple 6y ago
      No problem. Plenty of Americans don't know this, and there's a sizable proportion that wants you to think it's so settled.
  - johnchristopher 6y ago
    Thanks.
- iso1210 6y ago
  Becuase much of the document is there to limit the powers of the government. It doesn't grant rights to people, it acknowleges that people have those rights whether the constitution exists or not, and then proceeds to grant rights to the government The preamble is who authored the constitution Article 1 is all about how congress works Article 2 about the president Aritcle 3 about the courts Article 4 about the states Article 5 about the constitution Article 6 about which laws are important The Bill of rights further limits the power of government Nothing specifically is about the people. The clause you state limits the powers of the state to take rights away from people. The Constitution does not grant rights to people - because people (all people, globally) have all the rights by default. It does grant rights to government to do certain things, and it specifically limits the power of government to take away rights from people.

Article 4, section 2 `The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.` but that is not what's important: 1. Why do you say the constitution has nothing to do with citizens or non-citizens when some articles are about them and their rights ? 2. Why do you disagree that the preamble establishes that the document is from and about the people of the united states (and doesn't apply to non-US people/citizens) ?

eropple 6y ago
It is by no means settled that "the people of the United States" is explicitly and specifically citizenry and not aliens currently in the country for clauses not so specifying "citizens".
- johnchristopher 6y ago
  Ah, I understand now. Thanks. A quick Google search returns accounts of many debates about it (I should have mentioned I am not a US citizen, nor am I living in the US. I usually do, my bad).
  - eropple 6y ago
    No problem. Plenty of Americans don't know this, and there's a sizable proportion that wants you to think it's so settled.
- johnchristopher 6y ago
  Thanks.
iso1210 6y ago
Becuase much of the document is there to limit the powers of the government. It doesn't grant rights to people, it acknowleges that people have those rights whether the constitution exists or not, and then proceeds to grant rights to the government The preamble is who authored the constitution Article 1 is all about how congress works Article 2 about the president Aritcle 3 about the courts Article 4 about the states Article 5 about the constitution Article 6 about which laws are important The Bill of rights further limits the power of government Nothing specifically is about the people. The clause you state limits the powers of the state to take rights away from people. The Constitution does not grant rights to people - because people (all people, globally) have all the rights by default. It does grant rights to government to do certain things, and it specifically limits the power of government to take away rights from people.