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I think there’s a lot of culture “we have to do it this way because the real world is frightening and complex and therefore you have to be dodgy to succeed”. W

I think there’s a lot of culture “we have to do it this way because the real world is frightening and complex and therefore you have to be dodgy to succeed”. We need real conservatives today. With a strong outlook for the future. Not the 60-year-old pant-shitters given up on the ideas our society was built upon.

avmich 6y ago
> We need real conservatives today. Conservatism as an idea is morally deficient. We live in a changing world, especially at some periods, and what we need is adaptation of agreements to new ways of life propelled by increasing possibilities, from tech and quality of life. There are places for conservatism, stemming from slowly changing human nature, but for now it looks more like an exception than the rule. Popular vision of conservatism is hardly defendable today. Real - real - conservatives today would be progressives. AOC, Sanders, this kind. Not because they propose sticking with non-working mechanisms - they don't - but because they correctly see the ideas, intents of rules proposed for society - at times when changes weren't that stark. Edit: this is an opinion.
- sawjet 6y ago
  There is nothing wrong with being conservative or having conservative ideas.
  - avmich 6y ago
    It looks like having conservative ideas is somewhat similar to having ideas that e.g. the Earth is flat. Surely, one can think whatever he wants, but from such thinking one can have more mistakes than otherwise. There is no justification to many thought platforms - but that doesn't mean they can't be wrong.
    - heavenlyblue 6y ago
      Well, no. Anti-vaxxers are for example primarily liberal, because they believe that it’s the establishment that is trying to control them. Vaccination is actually a pretty conservative option politically.

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I think there’s a lot of culture “we have to do it this way because the real world is frightening and complex and therefore you have to be dodgy to succeed”. W

by heavenlyblue 6y ago

avmich 6y ago
> We need real conservatives today. Conservatism as an idea is morally deficient. We live in a changing world, especially at some periods, and what we need is adaptation of agreements to new ways of life propelled by increasing possibilities, from tech and quality of life. There are places for conservatism, stemming from slowly changing human nature, but for now it looks more like an exception than the rule. Popular vision of conservatism is hardly defendable today. Real - real - conservatives today would be progressives. AOC, Sanders, this kind. Not because they propose sticking with non-working mechanisms - they don't - but because they correctly see the ideas, intents of rules proposed for society - at times when changes weren't that stark. Edit: this is an opinion.
- sawjet 6y ago
  There is nothing wrong with being conservative or having conservative ideas.
  - avmich 6y ago
    It looks like having conservative ideas is somewhat similar to having ideas that e.g. the Earth is flat. Surely, one can think whatever he wants, but from such thinking one can have more mistakes than otherwise. There is no justification to many thought platforms - but that doesn't mean they can't be wrong.
    - heavenlyblue 6y ago
      Well, no. Anti-vaxxers are for example primarily liberal, because they believe that it’s the establishment that is trying to control them. Vaccination is actually a pretty conservative option politically.