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What if the locked-down ecosystem is the result of overly restrictive copyright laws? Wouldn’t it be better to tackle the root cause and adjust that?

by Hermel 6y ago

m4rtink 6y ago
Sure, migh do that as well while also fixing the current issue.
Twixes 6y ago
Copyright laws _are_ overly restrictive, but that's not what gives Apple and Google such power. It's how much they're established in the mobile systems market - which is not a free market. At this point it would be a miracle if any other OS maker made a dent in their marketshares without huge government intervention (think the US, EU or China forcing a new OS) – otherwise no way users _and_ developers would come. So there needs to be some regulation to stop anticonsumer practices.
dmitriid 6y ago
Copyright laws are by no means perfect, but they solve a very significant flaw of the free market: without the "overly restrictive copyright laws" you would have literally thousands of technologies under lock and key and unavailable to anyone except the inventor of those technologies. Apple's commanding lead in processor design is entirely unavailable to anyone except Apple. How do you propose the free market to solve that? Oh wait, it didn't and it hasn't: there are no regulations governing processor designs. You're free to go ahead and implement anything you want.
- dragonwriter 6y ago
  > Oh wait, it didn't and it hasn't: there are no regulations governing processor designs. We have no patent laws? Or are you saying that the “technologies” are obvious and non-novel?
  - dmitriid 6y ago
    The patent laws solve the actual problem of a free market: they give access to a technology to everyone (after a period of time). Something a free market would never agree to because that destroys the advantage of a company. --- start quote --- A patent is a form of intellectual property that gives its owner the legal right to exclude others from making, using, or selling an invention for a limited period of years in exchange for publishing an enabling public disclosure of the invention. --- end quote ---

What if the locked-down ecosystem is the result of overly restrictive copyright laws? Wouldn’t it be better to tackle the root cause and adjust that?

by Hermel 6y ago

What if the locked-down ecosystem is the result of overly restrictive copyright laws? Wouldn’t it be better to tackle the root cause and adjust that?

m4rtink 6y ago

Sure, migh do that as well while also fixing the current issue.

Twixes 6y ago

Copyright laws _are_ overly restrictive, but that's not what gives Apple and Google such power. It's how much they're established in the mobile systems market - which is not a free market. At this point it would be a miracle if any other OS maker made a dent in their marketshares without huge government intervention (think the US, EU or China forcing a new OS) – otherwise no way users _and_ developers would come. So there needs to be some regulation to stop anticonsumer practices.

dmitriid 6y ago

Copyright laws are by no means perfect, but they solve a very significant flaw of the free market: without the "overly restrictive copyright laws" you would have literally thousands of technologies under lock and key and unavailable to anyone except the inventor of those technologies. Apple's commanding lead in processor design is entirely unavailable to anyone except Apple. How do you propose the free market to solve that? Oh wait, it didn't and it hasn't: there are no regulations governing processor designs. You're free to go ahead and implement anything you want.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> Oh wait, it didn't and it hasn't: there are no regulations governing processor designs. We have no patent laws? Or are you saying that the “technologies” are obvious and non-novel?
- dmitriid 6y ago
  The patent laws solve the actual problem of a free market: they give access to a technology to everyone (after a period of time). Something a free market would never agree to because that destroys the advantage of a company. --- start quote --- A patent is a form of intellectual property that gives its owner the legal right to exclude others from making, using, or selling an invention for a limited period of years in exchange for publishing an enabling public disclosure of the invention. --- end quote ---