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> back it up to the cloud The cloud is a volatile and ever changing place. There are no garuantees Google, Amazon, or Microsoft will still be around in 50 or 1

> back it up to the cloud The cloud is a volatile and ever changing place. There are no garuantees Google, Amazon, or Microsoft will still be around in 50 or 100 years.

srtjstjsj 6y ago
Wherever you store paper is also a volatile and ever changing place. S3 is certainly more durable over the past 14 years than my homes/offices. "Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)" https://www.webcitation.org/6P8EBZqQX https://www.webcitation.org/6P8EBZqQX
- jlokier 6y ago
  I tried tape backup. Never was able to read the tapes later.
  - tW4r 6y ago
    Take tris with a grain of salt, but I’ve heard an urban legend about a Fortune 500 company: Company uses magnetic tape backups that are stored in a bank vault Something occurs down the line requesting the backups to be restored Unable to restore backups from any of the tapes Investigation performed, result: IT person was taking the backups to the bank via subway, magnetized doors of the subway were constantly wiping the tapes Conclusion: always test your backups regularly
    - nix23 6y ago
      >IT person was taking the backups to the bank via subway, magnetized doors of the subway were constantly wiping the tapes That's probably bullshit you need a extreme strong magnet todo that.
  - nix23 6y ago
    LTO Tapes are the best. Used them at a Insurance company, they are extremely reliable.
    - jlokier 6y ago
      I haven't used LTO. Looking at the description on Wikipedia, LTO looks excellently designed. I used DAT/DDS (didn't have a choice - was given all my university projects on a DDS tape, couldn't read the data when I got access to a drive sadly), and I won't be using that again!
      - nix23 6y ago
        No really, LTO are the only tapes you should use, the drives are backward compatible and quite cheap if they are from an older generation. Cerns CASTOR system mainly relies on LTO-Drives/Tapes
jsilence 6y ago
What happened to Freenet? Why is ist not used more widely?

> back it up to the cloud The cloud is a volatile and ever changing place. There are no garuantees Google, Amazon, or Microsoft will still be around in 50 or 100 years.

srtjstjsj 6y ago

Wherever you store paper is also a volatile and ever changing place. S3 is certainly more durable over the past 14 years than my homes/offices. "Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)" https://www.webcitation.org/6P8EBZqQX https://www.webcitation.org/6P8EBZqQX

jlokier 6y ago
I tried tape backup. Never was able to read the tapes later.
- tW4r 6y ago
  Take tris with a grain of salt, but I’ve heard an urban legend about a Fortune 500 company: Company uses magnetic tape backups that are stored in a bank vault Something occurs down the line requesting the backups to be restored Unable to restore backups from any of the tapes Investigation performed, result: IT person was taking the backups to the bank via subway, magnetized doors of the subway were constantly wiping the tapes Conclusion: always test your backups regularly
  - nix23 6y ago
    >IT person was taking the backups to the bank via subway, magnetized doors of the subway were constantly wiping the tapes That's probably bullshit you need a extreme strong magnet todo that.
- nix23 6y ago
  LTO Tapes are the best. Used them at a Insurance company, they are extremely reliable.
  - jlokier 6y ago
    I haven't used LTO. Looking at the description on Wikipedia, LTO looks excellently designed. I used DAT/DDS (didn't have a choice - was given all my university projects on a DDS tape, couldn't read the data when I got access to a drive sadly), and I won't be using that again!
    - nix23 6y ago
      No really, LTO are the only tapes you should use, the drives are backward compatible and quite cheap if they are from an older generation. Cerns CASTOR system mainly relies on LTO-Drives/Tapes

jsilence 6y ago

What happened to Freenet? Why is ist not used more widely?