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Ah yes, Team Xecuter. The notorious. The infamous. The scoundrels! A household name, in fact. The textbook definition of organized crime! Our kids aren't safe w

Ah yes, Team Xecuter. The notorious. The infamous. The scoundrels! A household name, in fact. The textbook definition of organized crime! Our kids aren't safe with all these...video game console hackers. I can't believe a bunch of feds are getting paid to investigate and track down geeks in their basement. I think there's more important issues to focus on. Regardless of how you view this, I think we can all agree that it's a waste of resources. I think they should all go get a real job. Maybe Captain America will bust into some nerds house one day and beat the crap out of him for hacking his xbox. Would pay to see that movie. It probably wont come out though because it would make no sense at all.

Kaze404 6y ago
While I agree with you, the notion that hackers are unemployed 16 year olds living in someones basement doesn't really correlate with reality, at least in the circles I'm in.
- wolco2 6y ago
  And how many 16 year olds are employed? Some have part time jobs, some have full time jobs in the summer. They generally treat education as a full time activity.
  - Kaze404 6y ago
    Depends where you live. When I was 16 (this decade), where I lived it was expected for 16 year olds to have full time jobs to help with family expenses.
- jessehorne 6y ago
  I'm on HN I think we can assume I agree with you. I think you misunderstood or I didn't explain correctly. The people working on this case should get a job, instead of going after a bunch of hackers. I have a basement and really I was envisioning some really cool space with all sorts of computers, rom chips, LED's, monitors and all that. IDK if I ever become a super notorious, evil, DANGEROUS, absolutely insane video game console modifier, you can bet your butt that I'm gonna be doing it in style, in my basement. EDIT: Some people work for a living...others have a suspect board on their wall with pictures of people that modify video game console, thinking that they're doing good in the world by putting these people in prison. If someone on this case walked by my house, I'd lock the door. You have to be a straight up psychopath to want to throw these people in prison.
- marcan_42 6y ago
  We all start as unemployed 16 year olds living in someone's basement (I was 16 when the Wii was released, hi!). Then one of three things happens: - You have morals, grow up and shift into a related career (infosec whitehat or some other computer engineering thing), and optionally stay part of the community, staying well away from piracy stuff. - You end up as a government-side black hat, i.e. NSA, NSO, and its ilk. Whether this is moral, that's for you to decide. - You have no morals, embrace piracy, see the money in the business (especially if you also don't care for your users and just want to extract as money from them as possible), and join or start a commercial piracy-focused operation, i.e. modchips and such. This is the Xecuter guys (re not caring for their users, they wrote bricking code for people who tried to mess with their devices, and it had false positives). The Xecuter guys aren't the good guys. Look for the open not for profit homebrew communities if you want legitimate effort to have control over your own hardware. Xecuter just caters to pirates.
  - Kaze404 6y ago
    This just sounds like you're saying people who disagree with you have no morals, which is an interesting way to see the world to put it mildly. Either way, not sure how it relates to my comment. I wasn't passing judgement on Team Xecuter or the comment I replied to.
  - scaramanga 6y ago
    Or you have no morals whatsoever and decide to join the highest order children's pocket money thieves in the world. The computer games industry. There you can be exploited labour to produce a $100m budget game which makes a 50% profit margin in its first weekend and then 5 years later still ask children for $70 per copy. Or, if they're feeling charitable, they can pay you $150 to get a virtual horse or hat with the game. If you don't like how they play with the toy. You can just steal it right back out of their hands by banning them from playing it with their friends remotely. You can use your profits to lobby for laws which imprison anyone who takes the tiniest dent out of your profits and have them thrown in to prison next to terrorists and serious criminals. Or you can use it to just sue children who are curious about computers. Hi sony!
    - 6y ago
jessehorne 6y ago
Where can I submit a tip, DOJ??? There's this site that is FULL of hackers called Hacker News. They're crazy smart, probably up to no good on their computers with their raspberry pies and their JavaScript. Notorious the lot of them! I heard some of them use Linux and install their own ram! They must be stopped.

Kaze404 6y ago

While I agree with you, the notion that hackers are unemployed 16 year olds living in someones basement doesn't really correlate with reality, at least in the circles I'm in.

wolco2 6y ago
And how many 16 year olds are employed? Some have part time jobs, some have full time jobs in the summer. They generally treat education as a full time activity.
- Kaze404 6y ago
  Depends where you live. When I was 16 (this decade), where I lived it was expected for 16 year olds to have full time jobs to help with family expenses.
jessehorne 6y ago
I'm on HN I think we can assume I agree with you. I think you misunderstood or I didn't explain correctly. The people working on this case should get a job, instead of going after a bunch of hackers. I have a basement and really I was envisioning some really cool space with all sorts of computers, rom chips, LED's, monitors and all that. IDK if I ever become a super notorious, evil, DANGEROUS, absolutely insane video game console modifier, you can bet your butt that I'm gonna be doing it in style, in my basement. EDIT: Some people work for a living...others have a suspect board on their wall with pictures of people that modify video game console, thinking that they're doing good in the world by putting these people in prison. If someone on this case walked by my house, I'd lock the door. You have to be a straight up psychopath to want to throw these people in prison.
marcan_42 6y ago
We all start as unemployed 16 year olds living in someone's basement (I was 16 when the Wii was released, hi!). Then one of three things happens: - You have morals, grow up and shift into a related career (infosec whitehat or some other computer engineering thing), and optionally stay part of the community, staying well away from piracy stuff. - You end up as a government-side black hat, i.e. NSA, NSO, and its ilk. Whether this is moral, that's for you to decide. - You have no morals, embrace piracy, see the money in the business (especially if you also don't care for your users and just want to extract as money from them as possible), and join or start a commercial piracy-focused operation, i.e. modchips and such. This is the Xecuter guys (re not caring for their users, they wrote bricking code for people who tried to mess with their devices, and it had false positives). The Xecuter guys aren't the good guys. Look for the open not for profit homebrew communities if you want legitimate effort to have control over your own hardware. Xecuter just caters to pirates.
- Kaze404 6y ago
  This just sounds like you're saying people who disagree with you have no morals, which is an interesting way to see the world to put it mildly. Either way, not sure how it relates to my comment. I wasn't passing judgement on Team Xecuter or the comment I replied to.
- scaramanga 6y ago
  Or you have no morals whatsoever and decide to join the highest order children's pocket money thieves in the world. The computer games industry. There you can be exploited labour to produce a $100m budget game which makes a 50% profit margin in its first weekend and then 5 years later still ask children for $70 per copy. Or, if they're feeling charitable, they can pay you $150 to get a virtual horse or hat with the game. If you don't like how they play with the toy. You can just steal it right back out of their hands by banning them from playing it with their friends remotely. You can use your profits to lobby for laws which imprison anyone who takes the tiniest dent out of your profits and have them thrown in to prison next to terrorists and serious criminals. Or you can use it to just sue children who are curious about computers. Hi sony!
  - 6y ago

jessehorne 6y ago

Where can I submit a tip, DOJ??? There's this site that is FULL of hackers called Hacker News. They're crazy smart, probably up to no good on their computers with their raspberry pies and their JavaScript. Notorious the lot of them! I heard some of them use Linux and install their own ram! They must be stopped.