I was within ~5 minutes, mmmaybe 10 tops. It is unfortunate that there is an excess of ideology around these issues. It hinders communication by confusing ques

I was within ~5 minutes, mmmaybe 10 tops. It is unfortunate that there is an excess of ideology around these issues. It hinders communication by confusing questions about the implementation of an ideology with hate-filled attacks on people. It does not help the matter that similar attacks are real and exist. On the other hand, such confusion of concerns is a common goal of many who advance their ideologies, so there is a possibility some may deem this confusion desirable.