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What's really concerning is that "smart" TV's are no longer an upgrade, but the standard. You practically cannot find a new dumb 4k TV. When I went to purchase
by aphextron 6y ago
What's really concerning is that "smart" TV's are no longer an upgrade, but the standard. You practically cannot find a new dumb 4k TV. When I went to purchase one recently, Best Buy at least had no other option.
- wvenable 6y agoAll smart TV's are dumb if you don't connect them to the Internet.
- bigbubba 6y agoThey won't spy on you, but you'll still have to deal with the laggy shitware they run. In some I've had the misfortune of using, simply changing the inputs was a torturous affair because of the shitty software the TV was running.
- devrand 6y agoThankfully most let you skip the UI entirely by having direct input selection IR commands. Get yourself a generic universal remote that either has these buttons, or custom ones you can program. With this I basically never see the UI on my LG and Samsung TVs, and I certainly don't interact with it unless I need to get into settings.
- simias 6y agoI still remember the near-instant channel switching from the 90s, when analog signals and CRTs where the norm. You could change channels on a dime. Now with complex video and audio codecs, video post-processing and shoddily coded software there's been a very severe downgrade in that department. I don't have a TV at home but every time I'm in a hotel or my parent's place I notice how laggy it is when I'm just browsing through the channels (which is what I do 90% of the time when I'm using one, since there's hardly anything worth watching anyway). For those of you who are too young to know what I'm talking about, have a look at this: https://youtu.be/v83WEzw8tfw?t=44 https://youtu.be/v83WEzw8tfw?t=44
- jedberg 6y agoThat video is already laggy compared to what I remember as a kid. If you were watching OTA analog the channel change was near instant. Even on our cable box it was near instant.
- biztos 6y agoWas it not actually instant? My recollection from the 80's was you switch the channel (physically) and it's... switched! So was there some magical latency there that I just couldn't perceive, or are the "near instant" reports talking about some other type of TV? Or something else?
- ddingus 6y agoChange was instant, took a frame or two for all the sync, gain, etc to settle.
- jedberg 6y agoThere was a few ms of latency but you couldn't actually perceive it unless you used a slow motion camera or something.
- simcop2387 6y agoThere absolutely was some latency, about 13ms worth, because it had to wait for the next field to start so it could properly synchronize and start drawing. But you'd never notice that yourself.
- kortilla 6y agoYeah, I think that video appears to still have some digital delay. Perhaps something related to the satellite receiver decoding in that example.
- giancarlostoro 6y agoI am personally considering just getting an HDMI switch that I can manage externally from the TV. I mostly use the Android TV device I bought and its much more stable than the UI on my offline Smart TV thankfully it has most if not all the apps I need.
- jacobwilliamroy 6y agoThere are lots of shitwares that don't do async, so the shitware runs at a snail's pace offline because all the spyware requests have to time out before the shitware can do anything.
- choward 6y agoIf they have wifi you have no idea if they're connecting to open networks.
- Teever 6y agoI've heard the solution to that is to set up an AP in your house that is either firewalled or doesn't have an outbound connection and connect your smart devices to that AP.
- vsareto 6y agoApartments are a problem though
- culturestate 6y agoUnless the TV ignores your settings and hops to random networks when it can’t phone home through your AP, this approach should still work fine in apartments.
- MaxikCZ 6y agoFrom what I understood, this is precisely what some new models do.
- powersnail 6y agoBuy a cheap router, don’t connect the router to the internet, and connect all smart appliances to the router.
- jerrysievert 6y agoit used to be that way for "3d" tv's. I'm really hoping that "smart" tv's get relegated to the same fate.
- ssss11 6y agoThis. I found the same thing in Australia.