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The video is 21 minutes long and you commented on it's contents 7 minutes after OP posted the link. I think it's also fair to assume some time went by between O

The video is 21 minutes long and you commented on it's contents 7 minutes after OP posted the link. I think it's also fair to assume some time went by between OP posting and you seeing their comment. How did you find the time to view the clip thoroughly enough to dismiss it so nonchalantly?

andrewjl 6y ago
I'm well familiar with the directors other work to know he has next to zero credibility on economic issues. And after reading the directors quotes on the 2016 election[1], I don't think he has any credibility period. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger
- TheNorthman 6y ago
  Your rejection of Pilger is baseless and your reduction of his works as dealing with `economic issues' is equally so. Your comments reminds me of Slavoj Zizek's phrase: ideological par excellence in that while you're free to think of Pilger as you want, even biased, you're not absolved of similar issues. Putting the topic on its head, he is still widely respected in academia by amongst others, IIRC, Chomsky
  - andrewjl 6y ago
    I never reduced his works to dealing with economic issues and saying so is a misreading of what I wrote. What I meant was that the aspects of his work that do focus on economic issues betray a lack of technical understanding and a clear ideological agenda that biases presentation. The former is especially useful to the latter in that it uses deliberate ambiguities to allow one to sprout falsehoods via false analogy and omission. One can then lie by stating facts, selectively. If that's what you enjoy watching, that's cool man, but just keep in mind it's fiction and is of very little practical use besides entertainment value. Definitely don't try to build a political movement based on it! Unless you want it to fail. Repeatedly.
LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago
Maybe microdosed on some stuff, listening at double speed, skipping, fast forwarding. Essentially turning it into something from Mickey Mouse, while talking about warped realities with a straight face.

andrewjl 6y ago

I'm well familiar with the directors other work to know he has next to zero credibility on economic issues. And after reading the directors quotes on the 2016 election[1], I don't think he has any credibility period. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger

TheNorthman 6y ago
Your rejection of Pilger is baseless and your reduction of his works as dealing with `economic issues' is equally so. Your comments reminds me of Slavoj Zizek's phrase: ideological par excellence in that while you're free to think of Pilger as you want, even biased, you're not absolved of similar issues. Putting the topic on its head, he is still widely respected in academia by amongst others, IIRC, Chomsky
- andrewjl 6y ago
  I never reduced his works to dealing with economic issues and saying so is a misreading of what I wrote. What I meant was that the aspects of his work that do focus on economic issues betray a lack of technical understanding and a clear ideological agenda that biases presentation. The former is especially useful to the latter in that it uses deliberate ambiguities to allow one to sprout falsehoods via false analogy and omission. One can then lie by stating facts, selectively. If that's what you enjoy watching, that's cool man, but just keep in mind it's fiction and is of very little practical use besides entertainment value. Definitely don't try to build a political movement based on it! Unless you want it to fail. Repeatedly.

LargoLasskhyfv 6y ago

Maybe microdosed on some stuff, listening at double speed, skipping, fast forwarding. Essentially turning it into something from Mickey Mouse, while talking about warped realities with a straight face.