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Nope, same here, twice. I made it worse by opening my phone's stopwatch and starting a timer. The time was in the format 00:00.00, and I could see the milliseco

Nope, same here, twice. I made it worse by opening my phone's stopwatch and starting a timer. The time was in the format 00:00.00, and I could see the milliseconds creeping by, slowing more and more, until the numbers stopped moving entirely and that's the point when I was like "Welp, I made a big mistake here tonight." Got pretty traumatized from that. You assume linear progression of time to be a given truth of the universe, and when you loop in time or it stops, it's as if gravity had been reversed and you can float now. Cracks the fundamental assumptions you had about everything and you are left trying to put the pieces back together afterwards. If drugs always wear off in a finite amount of time -- but the drug has subjectively halted YOUR movement of time, you can now logically be in this state for an eternity/infinity. And that's when you get chills down your spine and start to panic haha.

mrow84 6y ago
I also experienced this on mushrooms, and found it quite traumatising as well, though I was already (I think) in a bit of a dark place when that part of the trip began, so that probably influenced my perception of it.
anon_cow1111 6y ago
Did you notice any more obviously physical effects of time dilation then, or just the phone timer? As in, throwing a ball and counting the rotations while it moves through the air, or fan blades spinning, etc? Just wondering if there's a way to study this as a real measure of reaction-time improvement, versus just a hallucinated one.
- asdff 6y ago
  I think there are some stimulant properties with psychedelics that I wouldn't be surprised if reaction times were improved. One thing I noticed from my experiences with LSD was that I could run seemingly indefinitely without tiring, and drink quite a lot of beer as if it were water and not feel drunk, when that same dosage while otherwise sober would make me struggle to walk. I think it would be too tough to stay focused on an empirical task to truly measure this, however. My mind might be running quite fast, but is easily distracted in this state. Historically, Dock Ellis threw a no hitter while tripping on LSD. He could scarcely see the home plate through all the visualizations, but he did it.
LocalH 6y ago
The strangest thing about my DMT time loops was that even though my perception of external time was dragged back and forth, I still have the memory of an internal chronology that was largely present throughout the experience, with gaps here and there
- Terr_ 6y ago
  Humans don't remember things so much as we re-create an imaginary scenario based on clues to keep us on track. So it's entirely possible that your memory--the replay simulation being done right now by your mind without drugs--is what provides the internal chronology, because that's simply how the re-simulation process works.
  - LocalH 6y ago
    That’s very possible. Like I said, there are gaps so it’s not an entirely intact chronology. In the first two or three minutes of the trip (which felt like much longer), I had this perception of “understanding everything” about reality and consciousness. During this time, I was lookin around the room and enjoying the vivid colors that were overlaying everything. Then a very intense and pleasant vibration occurred. After this, I attempted to play Guitar Hero. This only lasted for exactly one note before I started being pulled through the time period of the trip - I felt my perception forced backwards along the exact path that my eyes had initially taken through the room. In this manner, I was pulled forwards and backwards in a sort of loop. I tried to stand up at one point and knocked over a Coke bottle, and I perceived that bottle falling over multiple times. Same for my friend and tripsitter breaking up a post-trip bowl of cannabis. At one point my perception had come to what seemed like the “now” moment and just kinda stopped or got extremely slow. My thoughts went to the idea of whether I was dead and the looping was the experience of death, so I asked “am I dead?” My sitter told me that “you’re more alive than you’ve ever been”. After that, my trajectory through time continued until I felt a similar vibration to the earlier one, except it felt more dreadful. After that subsided, normal “reality” started to fade back in, with me becoming able to tug back against whatever was pulling me through time. It was very surreal. Even once the afterglow faded, my mind was clear for the first time in 20 years. I could think about nothing if I wanted to. Anyone with ADHD will understand how difficult that normally is.
ta1234567890 6y ago
> but the drug has subjectively halted YOUR movement of time, you can now logically be in this state for an eternity/infinity Someone told me the story of a guy that smoked DMT, was out for 15min and when he woke up he said he was never doing it again. He experienced living as a different person for 60 years, having a job, getting married, a whole life. It reminds me both of the end of the movie Contact and of the game in Blips and Chitz (Rick and Morty).
- sebmellen 6y ago
  I can just imagine dying, only to have my alien friends ask me how the trip was.
- nefitty 6y ago
  Here’s a story from someone who was knocked unconscious and lived an entire life in that time. It’s the top comment, not the deleted post itself: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/oc7rc/comment/c3g4ot3 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/oc7rc/comment/c3...

mrow84 6y ago

I also experienced this on mushrooms, and found it quite traumatising as well, though I was already (I think) in a bit of a dark place when that part of the trip began, so that probably influenced my perception of it.

anon_cow1111 6y ago

Did you notice any more obviously physical effects of time dilation then, or just the phone timer? As in, throwing a ball and counting the rotations while it moves through the air, or fan blades spinning, etc? Just wondering if there's a way to study this as a real measure of reaction-time improvement, versus just a hallucinated one.

asdff 6y ago
I think there are some stimulant properties with psychedelics that I wouldn't be surprised if reaction times were improved. One thing I noticed from my experiences with LSD was that I could run seemingly indefinitely without tiring, and drink quite a lot of beer as if it were water and not feel drunk, when that same dosage while otherwise sober would make me struggle to walk. I think it would be too tough to stay focused on an empirical task to truly measure this, however. My mind might be running quite fast, but is easily distracted in this state. Historically, Dock Ellis threw a no hitter while tripping on LSD. He could scarcely see the home plate through all the visualizations, but he did it.

LocalH 6y ago

The strangest thing about my DMT time loops was that even though my perception of external time was dragged back and forth, I still have the memory of an internal chronology that was largely present throughout the experience, with gaps here and there

Terr_ 6y ago
Humans don't remember things so much as we re-create an imaginary scenario based on clues to keep us on track. So it's entirely possible that your memory--the replay simulation being done right now by your mind without drugs--is what provides the internal chronology, because that's simply how the re-simulation process works.
- LocalH 6y ago
  That’s very possible. Like I said, there are gaps so it’s not an entirely intact chronology. In the first two or three minutes of the trip (which felt like much longer), I had this perception of “understanding everything” about reality and consciousness. During this time, I was lookin around the room and enjoying the vivid colors that were overlaying everything. Then a very intense and pleasant vibration occurred. After this, I attempted to play Guitar Hero. This only lasted for exactly one note before I started being pulled through the time period of the trip - I felt my perception forced backwards along the exact path that my eyes had initially taken through the room. In this manner, I was pulled forwards and backwards in a sort of loop. I tried to stand up at one point and knocked over a Coke bottle, and I perceived that bottle falling over multiple times. Same for my friend and tripsitter breaking up a post-trip bowl of cannabis. At one point my perception had come to what seemed like the “now” moment and just kinda stopped or got extremely slow. My thoughts went to the idea of whether I was dead and the looping was the experience of death, so I asked “am I dead?” My sitter told me that “you’re more alive than you’ve ever been”. After that, my trajectory through time continued until I felt a similar vibration to the earlier one, except it felt more dreadful. After that subsided, normal “reality” started to fade back in, with me becoming able to tug back against whatever was pulling me through time. It was very surreal. Even once the afterglow faded, my mind was clear for the first time in 20 years. I could think about nothing if I wanted to. Anyone with ADHD will understand how difficult that normally is.

ta1234567890 6y ago

> but the drug has subjectively halted YOUR movement of time, you can now logically be in this state for an eternity/infinity Someone told me the story of a guy that smoked DMT, was out for 15min and when he woke up he said he was never doing it again. He experienced living as a different person for 60 years, having a job, getting married, a whole life. It reminds me both of the end of the movie Contact and of the game in Blips and Chitz (Rick and Morty).

sebmellen 6y ago
I can just imagine dying, only to have my alien friends ask me how the trip was.
nefitty 6y ago
Here’s a story from someone who was knocked unconscious and lived an entire life in that time. It’s the top comment, not the deleted post itself: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/oc7rc/comment/c3g4ot3 https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/oc7rc/comment/c3...