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Your war of attrition style of argumentation isn't that impressive. The amount of time I would need to spend to counter your links is like 10x of the time you s
by jahaja 6y ago
Your war of attrition style of argumentation isn't that impressive. The amount of time I would need to spend to counter your links is like 10x of the time you spend producing it - which is pretty obvious given how prolific you've been in this thread.
- bhupy 6y agoYou're right, dispassionately citing relevant metrics and sources to make a set of points is far less impressive than complaining about being out-argued. We should all aspire to whatever we call that style of argumentation!
- jahaja 6y agoOut-argued? Don't flatter yourself. You're only spamming links in the hope that no one will bother looking them up. It's the same MO that your fellow status-quo apologist raynier and refurb do, in every. Single. Thread. Suggesting. Inequality. Look it up, I'm not exaggerating.
- bhupy 6y agoGot it, so you’re not only incapable of actually engaging with arguments that are clearly cited with verifiable links, you also appear to have an axe to grind attacking other people totally unrelated to the discussion at hand. This is gold standard argumentation, I clearly have so much to learn from you!
- jahaja 6y agoI asked you to google a quote which take a minute to find at most. In this topic you consistently require folks to spend much more time to even come close to interpreting your links. Axe to grind? Yes. I do notice patterns that I don't really fancy, reactionary ones in particular. Aristocrats defending monarchy get little sympathy from me.
- bhupy 6y agoThe vast majority of my links are literally pictures of charts and 280 character tweets. In general, when you make a claim, the burden is on you to prove it, and you should hence provide links to your citations. Imploring others to Google around to corroborate your own arguments (especially when — in your case — the arguments are incoherent) imposes that burden on the recipient. It’s far higher a burden than reading links that have already been supplied, especially when those links are tweets and charts. On only one occasion in this discussion, my links included research papers — but that was in response to claims about Piketty, a researcher. I generally expect people that bring him up to be able to parse research papers — a skill that you typically learn as an undergraduate.
- jahaja 6y agoBoth articles can be found within seconds by selecting the text, right-clicking and clicking "Search Google". The tweets you are linking are summarizing cherry-picked data that itself would require much more effort to figure out. Both quotes I pasted show significant problems with those "refutations". The first is simply using the wrong data and the latter seem to just be complaining that there's too little data to make an accurate estimate (and the obvious solution is to lobby for states to provide this, which status-quo apologists seem very unwilling to do).