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> This should just straight out be forbidden and regulation is the only way out of it. Ok, but also on the internet, radio and in newspapers.

by akerro 6y ago

yfy33 6y ago
Best point in this thread and unsurprisingly, immediately downvoted by pearl clutchers. Just to be clear, you’re being downvoted for indirectly going after the livelihood of those who participate in this forum. Samsung getting into the game after SV Web taught them how to do it is making people realize, rather uncomfortably, that this is the world they’ve created now. It’s easy to abstract away commits to a repo when it comes to ethics, but remember, most of you reading this thread are at least complicit in building mass surveillance to make people who aren’t you more wealthy. You either work on it directly or sit at a company that works on it or participates in the ecosystem. That repulsion you feel for Samsung doing this is exactly how the rest of us feel now that your entire vertical is founded on trading my income and breast size and pregnancy status like I’m cattle. How you want microphones in every home in case I say “tuna would be nice” to make tuna magically appear 49 minutes later in a drone delivered package. How you’re perfectly comfortable tracking everything I do until it touches you when you kick back to watch TV. Then oh my God it’s horrible. Fuck your hypocrisy. It’s so transparent as to be hilarious. You can downvote me to silence me but keep in mind I’m just taking the time to tell you the other side. If you’d like to remain in a cushy bubble of “this is okay,” keep it up, but remember that you were warned you’re on the wrong side of engineering history and chose to attack the messenger instead of look inward.
ascar 6y ago
I thought about this before writing that paragraph. The issue is much more similar to having advertisment on the home screen of your smartphone than using a service. It would be more similar to your ISP injecting advertisement in your traffic and displaying it on top of the websites you visit rather than advertisement in the website. The issue is deeper than advertisement itself. It's that it is unsolicited pushed into devices that are meant to consume other content.

> This should just straight out be forbidden and regulation is the only way out of it. Ok, but also on the internet, radio and in newspapers.

by akerro 6y ago

> This should just straight out be forbidden and regulation is the only way out of it. Ok, but also on the internet, radio and in newspapers.

yfy33 6y ago

Best point in this thread and unsurprisingly, immediately downvoted by pearl clutchers. Just to be clear, you’re being downvoted for indirectly going after the livelihood of those who participate in this forum. Samsung getting into the game after SV Web taught them how to do it is making people realize, rather uncomfortably, that this is the world they’ve created now. It’s easy to abstract away commits to a repo when it comes to ethics, but remember, most of you reading this thread are at least complicit in building mass surveillance to make people who aren’t you more wealthy. You either work on it directly or sit at a company that works on it or participates in the ecosystem. That repulsion you feel for Samsung doing this is exactly how the rest of us feel now that your entire vertical is founded on trading my income and breast size and pregnancy status like I’m cattle. How you want microphones in every home in case I say “tuna would be nice” to make tuna magically appear 49 minutes later in a drone delivered package. How you’re perfectly comfortable tracking everything I do until it touches you when you kick back to watch TV. Then oh my God it’s horrible. Fuck your hypocrisy. It’s so transparent as to be hilarious. You can downvote me to silence me but keep in mind I’m just taking the time to tell you the other side. If you’d like to remain in a cushy bubble of “this is okay,” keep it up, but remember that you were warned you’re on the wrong side of engineering history and chose to attack the messenger instead of look inward.

ascar 6y ago

I thought about this before writing that paragraph. The issue is much more similar to having advertisment on the home screen of your smartphone than using a service. It would be more similar to your ISP injecting advertisement in your traffic and displaying it on top of the websites you visit rather than advertisement in the website. The issue is deeper than advertisement itself. It's that it is unsolicited pushed into devices that are meant to consume other content.