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Made a mental note to buy only the dumb tv. If I want streaming options I would rather setup my own. Or for non-tech I would recommend dumb tv + apple tv or Chr

Made a mental note to buy only the dumb tv. If I want streaming options I would rather setup my own. Or for non-tech I would recommend dumb tv + apple tv or Chromecast

fredley 6y ago
Absolutely. If forced (as in there are no dumb tv options that are viable), I'd reluctantly buy a smart TV, but I'd never let it actually connect it up.
- checkyoursudo 6y ago
  This has worked for us so far. We don't watch broadcast TV, nor do we have cable/satellite. We hooked an internet-connected pi w/ kodi, and it's been going fine.
mattnewton 6y ago
It’s getting harder and harder to. I ended up buying a projector and a screen, large TVs are pretty much all infected with this kind of “smart os” and I don’t want a tv constantly asking to be connected to the internet so it can download adware.
- junon 6y ago
  This. When I was in California I tried to find a 4k TV that was "dumb". It was impossible.
  - lostlogin 6y ago
    I’ve been contemplating a computer monitor and a sound bar. I would prefer to have a remote with on/off and volume but I guess I can use my phone for most of that.
    - ohazi 6y ago
      Where can you get a 55 inch computer monitor?
      - lostlogin 6y ago
        ... and there I go again assuming people want the same things as me. I want a good quality, high resolution 32-40 inch tv.
  - the8472 6y ago
    Instead of a dumb TV you can get a public/info/business display and add an external tuner or video source if needed. Finding one that supports HDR can get a bit tricky though since that's not their major selling point, but they do exist.
    - 0rjf83 6y ago
      Ironically I'll link a Samsung [1] but there are options. Home theater enthusiasts (ugh) will of course berate you because "YOu'RE PaYING MORE For LESS FeAATURES!!", which is true. I haven't yet found a commercial display offering Dolby Vision. [1] https://www.cdw.ca/product/samsung-hg55nj670uf-670-series-55-led-tv/5170836?pfm=srh https://www.cdw.ca/product/samsung-hg55nj670uf-670-series-55...
  - CyberDildonics 6y ago
    Open up the back and find the wifi antenna when you set it up. It should only take an extra 15 minutes at most.
- 0rjf83 6y ago
  The term you're looking for is "Commercial Signage" or "Large-Format Displays" [1] This is of course US based but there are other vendors for North America, and I'm sure for EuroAsia and beyond. You're paying more for the fact that some models are built to last longer, and the fact there's no wireless or smart junk. [1] https://www.cdw.com/search/Monitors-Projectors/Large-Format-Displays/?w=D8&ln=3 https://www.cdw.com/search/Monitors-Projectors/Large-Format-...
  - neolog 6y ago
    Interesting but the price difference seems huge. 75" 4k for $850 (consumer) vs $3500 (business). https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-75-class-7-series-led-4k-uhd-smart-tizen-tv/6401719.p?skuId=6401719 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-75-class-7-series-led-4... https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-qh75r-qhr-series-75-led-display/5824031 https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-qh75r-qhr-series-75-led-...
  - mschuster91 6y ago
    > You're paying more for the fact that some models are built to last longer Not just built to last longer, but built to last in a lot of different environments (heat, cold, humidity, vandalism, vibrations) whereas consumer TVs are optimized to run at 20-25 °C in a home where they will be rarely moved. The QA on the panels is much more rigorous, too (it's the same thing as with Intel CPUs, the yield on panels hitting the standards for commercial signage is lower than your average consumer TV). Also, you'll be getting spare parts for these in a decade if you need it (or, at the very least, can purchase a new device with identical specs in that time), there will be support from the manufacturer over that time, and more often than not you'll be able to find decent documentation about how to integrate them into whatever you're building. And: some of these carry amazing features. Some two years ago when I was doing videography stuff for an event, there were four 60 inch full-HD monitors in a 2x2 grid - supplied with one DVI cable for the signal that was passed between them using in daisy chain mode, they were configurable to run in grids of up to 4x4 I believe, and the monitors simply took the incoming signal, cropped their section out of it, and displayed it scaled. Was a hell of a lot of fun playing with them.
checkyoursudo 6y ago
This is getting slightly more difficult to do lately, depending on where you live. In northern Sweden where there aren't very many different stores nearby, options were quite limited when we bought a TV several months ago. Every unit over a certain size, like maybe 32"(?), was a smart TV.
propelol 6y ago
I'm currently looking at some 4k 50+ inches PC monitors, and I don't see what the downside is doing this instead of getting a TV.
- mattnewton 6y ago
  Just price usually, since they tend to marketed towards enthusiasts/professionals vs general consumer markup of big tvs in my experience. But this is what I would do if I couldn’t setup a projector.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  When I was looking at monitor options I saw Dell offering conference-room monitors that were the size of a conventional TV and price wasn't that much expensive so maybe this is the solution.
- CraneWorm 6y ago
  they started selling monitors running android ;)

Made a mental note to buy only the dumb tv. If I want streaming options I would rather setup my own. Or for non-tech I would recommend dumb tv + apple tv or Chromecast

fredley 6y ago

Absolutely. If forced (as in there are no dumb tv options that are viable), I'd reluctantly buy a smart TV, but I'd never let it actually connect it up.

checkyoursudo 6y ago
This has worked for us so far. We don't watch broadcast TV, nor do we have cable/satellite. We hooked an internet-connected pi w/ kodi, and it's been going fine.

mattnewton 6y ago

It’s getting harder and harder to. I ended up buying a projector and a screen, large TVs are pretty much all infected with this kind of “smart os” and I don’t want a tv constantly asking to be connected to the internet so it can download adware.

junon 6y ago
This. When I was in California I tried to find a 4k TV that was "dumb". It was impossible.
- lostlogin 6y ago
  I’ve been contemplating a computer monitor and a sound bar. I would prefer to have a remote with on/off and volume but I guess I can use my phone for most of that.
  - ohazi 6y ago
    Where can you get a 55 inch computer monitor?
    - lostlogin 6y ago
      ... and there I go again assuming people want the same things as me. I want a good quality, high resolution 32-40 inch tv.
- the8472 6y ago
  Instead of a dumb TV you can get a public/info/business display and add an external tuner or video source if needed. Finding one that supports HDR can get a bit tricky though since that's not their major selling point, but they do exist.
  - 0rjf83 6y ago
    Ironically I'll link a Samsung [1] but there are options. Home theater enthusiasts (ugh) will of course berate you because "YOu'RE PaYING MORE For LESS FeAATURES!!", which is true. I haven't yet found a commercial display offering Dolby Vision. [1] https://www.cdw.ca/product/samsung-hg55nj670uf-670-series-55-led-tv/5170836?pfm=srh https://www.cdw.ca/product/samsung-hg55nj670uf-670-series-55...
- CyberDildonics 6y ago
  Open up the back and find the wifi antenna when you set it up. It should only take an extra 15 minutes at most.
0rjf83 6y ago
The term you're looking for is "Commercial Signage" or "Large-Format Displays" [1] This is of course US based but there are other vendors for North America, and I'm sure for EuroAsia and beyond. You're paying more for the fact that some models are built to last longer, and the fact there's no wireless or smart junk. [1] https://www.cdw.com/search/Monitors-Projectors/Large-Format-Displays/?w=D8&ln=3 https://www.cdw.com/search/Monitors-Projectors/Large-Format-...
- neolog 6y ago
  Interesting but the price difference seems huge. 75" 4k for $850 (consumer) vs $3500 (business). https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-75-class-7-series-led-4k-uhd-smart-tizen-tv/6401719.p?skuId=6401719 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-75-class-7-series-led-4... https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-qh75r-qhr-series-75-led-display/5824031 https://www.cdw.com/product/samsung-qh75r-qhr-series-75-led-...
- mschuster91 6y ago
  > You're paying more for the fact that some models are built to last longer Not just built to last longer, but built to last in a lot of different environments (heat, cold, humidity, vandalism, vibrations) whereas consumer TVs are optimized to run at 20-25 °C in a home where they will be rarely moved. The QA on the panels is much more rigorous, too (it's the same thing as with Intel CPUs, the yield on panels hitting the standards for commercial signage is lower than your average consumer TV). Also, you'll be getting spare parts for these in a decade if you need it (or, at the very least, can purchase a new device with identical specs in that time), there will be support from the manufacturer over that time, and more often than not you'll be able to find decent documentation about how to integrate them into whatever you're building. And: some of these carry amazing features. Some two years ago when I was doing videography stuff for an event, there were four 60 inch full-HD monitors in a 2x2 grid - supplied with one DVI cable for the signal that was passed between them using in daisy chain mode, they were configurable to run in grids of up to 4x4 I believe, and the monitors simply took the incoming signal, cropped their section out of it, and displayed it scaled. Was a hell of a lot of fun playing with them.

checkyoursudo 6y ago

This is getting slightly more difficult to do lately, depending on where you live. In northern Sweden where there aren't very many different stores nearby, options were quite limited when we bought a TV several months ago. Every unit over a certain size, like maybe 32"(?), was a smart TV.

propelol 6y ago

I'm currently looking at some 4k 50+ inches PC monitors, and I don't see what the downside is doing this instead of getting a TV.

mattnewton 6y ago
Just price usually, since they tend to marketed towards enthusiasts/professionals vs general consumer markup of big tvs in my experience. But this is what I would do if I couldn’t setup a projector.
Nextgrid 6y ago
When I was looking at monitor options I saw Dell offering conference-room monitors that were the size of a conventional TV and price wasn't that much expensive so maybe this is the solution.
CraneWorm 6y ago
they started selling monitors running android ;)