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> Can someone tell me again what problems do this actually solve? Problem: You want to use FooApp 2.0, but your distribution only ships FooApp 1.0. Or even wor

by jhasse 6y ago

> Can someone tell me again what problems do this actually solve? Problem: You want to use FooApp 2.0, but your distribution only ships FooApp 1.0. Or even worse your distribution doesn't ship it at all.

sergeykish 6y ago
Make a package, push it to AUR, great help for other users.
- rbanffy 6y ago
  Or just download the tarball and `./configure && make && make install` In the worst case scenario, you'll learn why the distro is not offering the newest version.
  - jhasse 6y ago
    Yeah ... I'll go with the Flatpak, thanks.
- jhasse 6y ago
  What if I'm not using Arch?
  - sergeykish 6y ago
    Endless possibilities * Try Nix on your distribution [1], package may be already there [2] * Create package for your distribution, become maintainer, that's not the last time you need it * Switch to less outdated channel, other packages would be fresh too * Change distribution Flatpak has its niche but your use case looks like fixing broken distribution. There is no package, package is outdated, it is hard to make package, it is hard to publish package - these problems already solved. Hard problems may be * I want several versions of the package * I want entire environment like it was 6 years ago so I can run / compile application (in parallel with current) * I want to run application in sandbox - no network, no file access, no mic etc * I want proprietary application and they don't play well with Linux ecosystem Hope Flatpak will address them while keeping security in check. --- Debian Sid is claimed to be not more unstable than Arch [3]. And I had less problems in a decade than a single Ubuntu dist upgrade. Rolling release does not accumulate breaking changes. Run update once a week and you'll be fine. [1] https://nixos.org/download.html https://nixos.org/download.html [2] https://search.nixos.org/packages https://search.nixos.org/packages [3] https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-run-debian-sid-relatively-safely https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-run-debian-sid-relatively-saf...
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by jhasse 6y ago

sergeykish 6y ago

Make a package, push it to AUR, great help for other users.

rbanffy 6y ago
Or just download the tarball and `./configure && make && make install` In the worst case scenario, you'll learn why the distro is not offering the newest version.
- jhasse 6y ago
  Yeah ... I'll go with the Flatpak, thanks.
jhasse 6y ago
What if I'm not using Arch?
- sergeykish 6y ago
  Endless possibilities * Try Nix on your distribution [1], package may be already there [2] * Create package for your distribution, become maintainer, that's not the last time you need it * Switch to less outdated channel, other packages would be fresh too * Change distribution Flatpak has its niche but your use case looks like fixing broken distribution. There is no package, package is outdated, it is hard to make package, it is hard to publish package - these problems already solved. Hard problems may be * I want several versions of the package * I want entire environment like it was 6 years ago so I can run / compile application (in parallel with current) * I want to run application in sandbox - no network, no file access, no mic etc * I want proprietary application and they don't play well with Linux ecosystem Hope Flatpak will address them while keeping security in check. --- Debian Sid is claimed to be not more unstable than Arch [3]. And I had less problems in a decade than a single Ubuntu dist upgrade. Rolling release does not accumulate breaking changes. Run update once a week and you'll be fine. [1] https://nixos.org/download.html https://nixos.org/download.html [2] https://search.nixos.org/packages https://search.nixos.org/packages [3] https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-run-debian-sid-relatively-safely https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-run-debian-sid-relatively-saf...

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