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What is 'online violence'? That seems like a misnomer.

hackeraccount 6y ago
That was what I wanted to know.
blakesterz 6y ago
What is online violence? Dr. Emma A. Jane, a UNSW Senior Lecturer in the School of the Arts & Media, says online violence can refer to a range of dialogs and acts that occur at the gender, technology and violence nexus. "Examples of online violence include hate speech, sexually violent dialog, plausible rape and death threats, stalking, large groups attacking individuals, the malicious circulation of targets' personal details online (known as "doxing"), and the uploading of sexually explicit material without the consent of the pictured subject ("revenge porn")," Dr. Jane says. https://phys.org/news/2019-11-online-violence-destructive-offline.html https://phys.org/news/2019-11-online-violence-destructive-of...
- ok123456 6y ago
  Doesn't this trivialize the victims of physical violence by forcing them to qualify that their violence was indeed physical?
DoreenMichele 6y ago
If you think of it kind of like the idea of "poverty is violence" maybe that helps make it make some sense. I am not going to read through this. I have some sympathy for why and how stuff like this gets written, but I think stuff like this tends to be more part of the problem than part of the solution. I believe what they are going for is the idea that hostility you run into online has real world consequences. We dismiss the idea that "words on a screen" can have impact, but lots of men have no problem using Hacker News to make money but it is not a female-friendly space and even being fairly prominent as a woman here is more downside than up. It has not proven to be a good networking opportunity for me and I am given all kinds of crap for trying to talk about that, even in comments like this one intended to simply elucidate a problem space for someone scratching their head. There is no good way to talk about such things, so they get entrenched and it causes real and serious problems for women and other marginalized peoples. I'm spending less time here generally and may be in the process of "leaving" HN, more or less, because this is not a solvable problem and my motives for putting up with this shit are possibly disappearing. Without compelling reason to put up with it, I seem to be spending less time here and more time elsewhere. So that's likely to leave HN with more crap like this piece and, hey, you get what you want. No one wanted to hear my take and I'm tired of trying to build bridges while getting kicked in the teeth and lumped in with man-hating self-proclaimed feminists for the crime of trying to make my life work.
- rabite 6y ago
  I'm not trying to be offensive here but you are a self-admitted longtime homeless person with a community college certificate and an unfinished BA in "Environmental Studies" with a concentration in... Housing. Your Github consists of a readme. The reason HN isn't a good networking opportunity for you is a lack of qualifications and personal achievements. I guarantee if you put in the work, learned a programming language, got in some commits of actual code to FOSS projects people actually use on a day to day basis and made a cool tech demo to Show HN, it would suddenly be a very useful networking opportunity for you. I don't think any spaces should be hostile to women who arrive in earnest. But your lack of equal contributions to the valued posters here make me think you are not operating in earnest.

That was what I wanted to know.

What is online violence? Dr. Emma A. Jane, a UNSW Senior Lecturer in the School of the Arts & Media, says online violence can refer to a range of dialogs and acts that occur at the gender, technology and violence nexus. "Examples of online violence include hate speech, sexually violent dialog, plausible rape and death threats, stalking, large groups attacking individuals, the malicious circulation of targets' personal details online (known as "doxing"), and the uploading of sexually explicit material without the consent of the pictured subject ("revenge porn")," Dr. Jane says. https://phys.org/news/2019-11-online-violence-destructive-offline.html https://phys.org/news/2019-11-online-violence-destructive-of...

ok123456 6y ago
Doesn't this trivialize the victims of physical violence by forcing them to qualify that their violence was indeed physical?

DoreenMichele 6y ago

If you think of it kind of like the idea of "poverty is violence" maybe that helps make it make some sense. I am not going to read through this. I have some sympathy for why and how stuff like this gets written, but I think stuff like this tends to be more part of the problem than part of the solution. I believe what they are going for is the idea that hostility you run into online has real world consequences. We dismiss the idea that "words on a screen" can have impact, but lots of men have no problem using Hacker News to make money but it is not a female-friendly space and even being fairly prominent as a woman here is more downside than up. It has not proven to be a good networking opportunity for me and I am given all kinds of crap for trying to talk about that, even in comments like this one intended to simply elucidate a problem space for someone scratching their head. There is no good way to talk about such things, so they get entrenched and it causes real and serious problems for women and other marginalized peoples. I'm spending less time here generally and may be in the process of "leaving" HN, more or less, because this is not a solvable problem and my motives for putting up with this shit are possibly disappearing. Without compelling reason to put up with it, I seem to be spending less time here and more time elsewhere. So that's likely to leave HN with more crap like this piece and, hey, you get what you want. No one wanted to hear my take and I'm tired of trying to build bridges while getting kicked in the teeth and lumped in with man-hating self-proclaimed feminists for the crime of trying to make my life work.

rabite 6y ago
I'm not trying to be offensive here but you are a self-admitted longtime homeless person with a community college certificate and an unfinished BA in "Environmental Studies" with a concentration in... Housing. Your Github consists of a readme. The reason HN isn't a good networking opportunity for you is a lack of qualifications and personal achievements. I guarantee if you put in the work, learned a programming language, got in some commits of actual code to FOSS projects people actually use on a day to day basis and made a cool tech demo to Show HN, it would suddenly be a very useful networking opportunity for you. I don't think any spaces should be hostile to women who arrive in earnest. But your lack of equal contributions to the valued posters here make me think you are not operating in earnest.