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I think was the OP was saying is that indigenous people are more likely to commit crimes because of the circumstances that are put upon them by the system, and

I think was the OP was saying is that indigenous people are more likely to commit crimes because of the circumstances that are put upon them by the system, and that they also lack access to better legal representation for the same reason, and are therefore more likely to be convicted of crimes. Really, it's due to economic circumstance (I bet poor white people are convicted of more crimes than rich white people). It just so happens that the system makes it very difficult for indigenous people to move up the economic ladder. The system is set up in such a way that it assumes indigenous people want to and/or should confirm to white European ideas of what is "normal" as well.

morelisp 6y ago
> circumstances that are put upon them by the system, and that they also lack access to better legal representation for the same reason, and are therefore more likely to be convicted of crimes. If only we had a convenient word for this, "the confluence of negative formal and material circumstances put upon someone because of race"...
doctor_eval 6y ago
I'd like to think that's what the OP was saying, but that's not remotely what the OP actually said. Also, they called me a moron, which (accurate or not) is not cool. > The system is set up in such a way that it assumes indigenous people want to and/or should confirm to white European ideas of what is "normal" as well I suspect that the system does not assume that aboriginal people want or should be European; rather, it doesn't think about aboriginal people at all.
nobody9999 6y ago
>Really, it's due to economic circumstance (I bet poor white people are convicted of more crimes than rich white people). Absolutely. Not that it's anything new. Nor is it limited to ethnic minorities. Consider Anatole France's observation[0]: "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." [0] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Anatole_France https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Anatole_France

morelisp 6y ago

> circumstances that are put upon them by the system, and that they also lack access to better legal representation for the same reason, and are therefore more likely to be convicted of crimes. If only we had a convenient word for this, "the confluence of negative formal and material circumstances put upon someone because of race"...

doctor_eval 6y ago

I'd like to think that's what the OP was saying, but that's not remotely what the OP actually said. Also, they called me a moron, which (accurate or not) is not cool. > The system is set up in such a way that it assumes indigenous people want to and/or should confirm to white European ideas of what is "normal" as well I suspect that the system does not assume that aboriginal people want or should be European; rather, it doesn't think about aboriginal people at all.

nobody9999 6y ago

>Really, it's due to economic circumstance (I bet poor white people are convicted of more crimes than rich white people). Absolutely. Not that it's anything new. Nor is it limited to ethnic minorities. Consider Anatole France's observation[0]: "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread." [0] https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Anatole_France https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Anatole_France