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WTF is even that page? You might as well have quoted 4chan. It’s so hilarious, I’m not even offended. To be honest.. I can see it working as a scam of some sor

WTF is even that page? You might as well have quoted 4chan. It’s so hilarious, I’m not even offended. To be honest.. I can see it working as a scam of some sort. As long as the “white man” has money you might as well be of the highest caste right? Here we’re trying to eliminate caste, but some geniuses want to give a caste to all sorts. You might as well give gold a caste...

bryanrasmussen 6y ago
well, the page is on the wikipedia domain, it is a talk page regarding edits to the page (discussion among different Indians I presume.) again as I understand it strictly speaking a foreigner should be casteless, and hence untouchable. But that discussion implies that the actual behavior towards foreigners does not match that, which would seem reasonable to me. Indians will need to interact with foreigners, if they are without caste that would be a problem, so how to fit the foreign into the social system.
- fellellor 6y ago
  In other words, the quote is completely bogus. Caste system, on the surface, seems like hereditary fixing of labor roles. If applied universally, it should be easy to accept a member of a strong foreign army, or any army as a Kshatriya. So it makes no sense for every Englishman to assume a high caste, irrespective of profession. But then, many “castes” are also, basically regional/ethnicities. In short, the rules which apply caste, are not uniform in any way and I would rather ridicule such an exercise than aid it. A foreigner doesn’t need to have a caste, even if they wish to convert to Hinduism, when our argument is that we need to abolish caste in India in the first place.
Bang2Bay 6y ago
looks like it is a page similar to this. a talk page. I guess we are trying to eliminate caste hierarchy/oppression (though there are legal provisions that already do that in india) .
- fellellor 6y ago
  Yeah, I wouldn’t quote this page as evidence for anything either. And I don’t know who are the “we” trying to eliminate caste oppression. Some claiming to do so are clearly demagogues using it to divide people and seize control. Like communists claiming to speak for the working class when in fact they just want all the power for themselves. The existing laws don’t eliminate caste, instead they make some of them more desirable.

bryanrasmussen 6y ago

well, the page is on the wikipedia domain, it is a talk page regarding edits to the page (discussion among different Indians I presume.) again as I understand it strictly speaking a foreigner should be casteless, and hence untouchable. But that discussion implies that the actual behavior towards foreigners does not match that, which would seem reasonable to me. Indians will need to interact with foreigners, if they are without caste that would be a problem, so how to fit the foreign into the social system.

fellellor 6y ago
In other words, the quote is completely bogus. Caste system, on the surface, seems like hereditary fixing of labor roles. If applied universally, it should be easy to accept a member of a strong foreign army, or any army as a Kshatriya. So it makes no sense for every Englishman to assume a high caste, irrespective of profession. But then, many “castes” are also, basically regional/ethnicities. In short, the rules which apply caste, are not uniform in any way and I would rather ridicule such an exercise than aid it. A foreigner doesn’t need to have a caste, even if they wish to convert to Hinduism, when our argument is that we need to abolish caste in India in the first place.

Bang2Bay 6y ago

looks like it is a page similar to this. a talk page. I guess we are trying to eliminate caste hierarchy/oppression (though there are legal provisions that already do that in india) .

fellellor 6y ago
Yeah, I wouldn’t quote this page as evidence for anything either. And I don’t know who are the “we” trying to eliminate caste oppression. Some claiming to do so are clearly demagogues using it to divide people and seize control. Like communists claiming to speak for the working class when in fact they just want all the power for themselves. The existing laws don’t eliminate caste, instead they make some of them more desirable.