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You have to consider the trajectory. SF is already a dumpster fire, if enough affluent people leave, property prices will tank and you will be paying off a mort

You have to consider the trajectory. SF is already a dumpster fire, if enough affluent people leave, property prices will tank and you will be paying off a mortgage for a larger sum than what the property is worth. Meanwhile, all these affluent people have to move somewhere, the properties in these places aren't going to stay cheap forever. So you can get a cheaper mortgage in those places to pay off a property that will rise in value. Of course, that's all speculation. Prices in the "good places" are already high anyway, if you really want to strike a bargain you have to buy into the places that are still up-and-coming.

dragonwriter 6y ago
> if enough affluent people leave, property prices will tank and you will be paying off a mortgage for a larger sum than what the property is worth. Or, as California is a non-recourse state, leaving the bank holding the bag, paying only taxes on the unpaid debt. > Meanwhile, all these affluent people have to move somewhere Well, they actually don't have to move, and if they do it may not be to where you predict.
FartyMcFarter 6y ago
> SF is already a dumpster fire, I didn't notice this when I went there last year, is it a post-covid thing? What happened?
- gridlockd 6y ago
  They must've given you the Potemkin village tour.
  - FartyMcFarter 6y ago
    I did see some homeless people, but overall it still felt like a nice place. Of course I avoided the tenderloin and other dodgy areas (and this time I didn't use the BART, unlike previous times).
dmode 6y ago
Have you seen SFH homes prices in SF and larger Bay Area prices ? It is through the roof even in pandemic. Don't believe some random media quotes
- gridlockd 6y ago
  The stock market hit all time highs during the pandemic while the economy is in shambles. Why? Because there's a lot of cheap money chasing those assets, and it's going to stay that way for a long while. Therefore, those house prices may still nominally rise or at least stay stable, even while they're losing value. You have to look at it in terms of opportunity cost. What else could you have bought for that money? If prices rise in SF only because of inflation, prices rise even faster in those places where there's a real increase in demand.

dragonwriter 6y ago

> if enough affluent people leave, property prices will tank and you will be paying off a mortgage for a larger sum than what the property is worth. Or, as California is a non-recourse state, leaving the bank holding the bag, paying only taxes on the unpaid debt. > Meanwhile, all these affluent people have to move somewhere Well, they actually don't have to move, and if they do it may not be to where you predict.

FartyMcFarter 6y ago

> SF is already a dumpster fire, I didn't notice this when I went there last year, is it a post-covid thing? What happened?

gridlockd 6y ago
They must've given you the Potemkin village tour.
- FartyMcFarter 6y ago
  I did see some homeless people, but overall it still felt like a nice place. Of course I avoided the tenderloin and other dodgy areas (and this time I didn't use the BART, unlike previous times).

dmode 6y ago

Have you seen SFH homes prices in SF and larger Bay Area prices ? It is through the roof even in pandemic. Don't believe some random media quotes

gridlockd 6y ago
The stock market hit all time highs during the pandemic while the economy is in shambles. Why? Because there's a lot of cheap money chasing those assets, and it's going to stay that way for a long while. Therefore, those house prices may still nominally rise or at least stay stable, even while they're losing value. You have to look at it in terms of opportunity cost. What else could you have bought for that money? If prices rise in SF only because of inflation, prices rise even faster in those places where there's a real increase in demand.