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> It's almost like there paid PR campaigns sweeping across social media. Alternatively it's almost like Microsoft made a concerted effort to stop being the big

> It's almost like there paid PR campaigns sweeping across social media. Alternatively it's almost like Microsoft made a concerted effort to stop being the biggest scumbags in the entire industry and started doing some nice things, and people adjusted their opinions based on new evidence. Not that anyone is saying we should "love" them, but maybe we can stop referring to them as "Micro$oft" now. Not everything has to be some giant conspiracy. Microsoft are simply being less evil than they were two decades ago. Google eschewed "Don't be evil" in favour of "Try to be less evil than Oracle, but beyond that don't worry too much". The "switch" that got flipped was the actions of those entities. (As for Apple, I strongly disagree with your take. I've seen almost nothing but negative sentiment towards Apple for years now, even from former fanboys)

disown 6y ago
> Alternatively it's almost like Microsoft made a concerted effort to stop being the biggest scumbags in the entire industry and started doing some nice things, and people adjusted their opinions based on new evidence. What evidence? Microsoft has been going more towards the "facebook" route with their move to turn the windows OS into a data collecting platform. And their "open source" move is filled with "telemetry". > Not everything has to be some giant conspiracy. Here comes those "conspiracy" talk. Everybody and their grandmother uses "conspiracy" as an argument against things they disagree with. I didn't say it was conspiracy. That corporations have PR campaigns isn't new. As a matter of fact, the founder of the site you are on wrote about it. http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html To imply otherwise would be a conspiracy. > (As for Apple, I strongly disagree with your take. I've seen almost nothing but negative sentiment towards Apple for years now, even from former fanboys) You've seen nothing but negative sentiment about apple? Where? Here, they are mostly championed as the "anti-facebook". But maybe we are reading different threads.

disown 6y ago

> Alternatively it's almost like Microsoft made a concerted effort to stop being the biggest scumbags in the entire industry and started doing some nice things, and people adjusted their opinions based on new evidence. What evidence? Microsoft has been going more towards the "facebook" route with their move to turn the windows OS into a data collecting platform. And their "open source" move is filled with "telemetry". > Not everything has to be some giant conspiracy. Here comes those "conspiracy" talk. Everybody and their grandmother uses "conspiracy" as an argument against things they disagree with. I didn't say it was conspiracy. That corporations have PR campaigns isn't new. As a matter of fact, the founder of the site you are on wrote about it. http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html To imply otherwise would be a conspiracy. > (As for Apple, I strongly disagree with your take. I've seen almost nothing but negative sentiment towards Apple for years now, even from former fanboys) You've seen nothing but negative sentiment about apple? Where? Here, they are mostly championed as the "anti-facebook". But maybe we are reading different threads.