Yeah we definitely aren't disagreeing. I think my comment was mostly driven by surprise that you've apparently encountered a large number of people who just thr

Yeah we definitely aren't disagreeing. I think my comment was mostly driven by surprise that you've apparently encountered a large number of people who just throw up their hands at a slow database. I've worked with some people who really frustrated me ("this operator isn't doing what I expect, and I don't see what's wrong, must be a bug in sql server") but even they'd try to tune a slow query. But I that might be more an artifact of working in a shop where the devs owned the database bottom to top (no dba's, and the sysadmins certainly don't know sql). I forget that for a lot of devs writing sql might not be a daily occurrence.