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what's the alternative to do the best they can to thwart cheating?

• colejohnson66 6y ago
  In person proctoring at a library?
  • manquer 6y ago
    There is an pandemic going on , that would not be feasible today ?
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• 10000truths 6y ago
  The solution is to not rely on remote proctoring at all. You ultimately cannot fully monitor an environment you don’t physically control, and in trying to do so, you’ll only end up pissing a lot of people off without doing anything to solve the problem. If potential cheating is such a critically important issue that proctors are ABSOLUTELY necessary, then don’t administer the tests online in the first place. Just augment the testing facility with COVID-19 related precautions, like required masks, hand sanitizer and spaced out desks.
  • manquer 6y ago
    Remote proctoring does not have to be automated. Plenty of tools do it with proctors monitoring the candidate. You don't need it to be at location , you need human proctors . Human proctors are expensive the bar exams are to blame here, if their question papers banks also too narrow so they have to do it the same time. Good exams will give you slots you can choose from , spreads the load. No provider can come up with 30,000 proctors for just a day , even if bar exam boards were ready to pay, which they don't seem to be
    • 10000truths 6y ago
      I'm not talking about automated proctoring, I'm talking about remote proctoring. Although automated proctoring is its own can of worms, especially when it runs client-side and essentially demands that you cede control of your computer setup to it. The sole purpose of having proctors is to alleviate cheating. Virtual proctoring is completely ineffective at doing so, and on top of that, effectively invites strangers to watch you in your own house and dictate what you can or cannot run on your own computer.
      • manquer 6y ago
        Given the current global pandemic, the risk of not doing these exams for folks who need them for their jobs of risking covid-19 is a far bigger problem than privacy. An exam body is certifying you are qualified in a skill or a subject. Yes these systems are intrusive, they are trying hard to make sure integrity of their assessment is there. I don't see how else in today's world both objectives can be met. Many industries regulate your professional interactions. Every call can be recorded in customer support or fin tech many of them are doing it from their homes today.
• searchableguy 6y ago
  Make questions that you cannot easily cheat on. If I can simply google the answer and plug it in without changing anything, then it's not a good question. I think open ended problems are the way to go where only knowing can't cut it.
  • eru 6y ago
    You could still have someone else write the answer for you.
• paultopia 6y ago
  In the case of the bar exam, they just need to get over it. Bar applicants have to pass an incredibly intrusive background check, then we trust them with the lives and livelihoods of their clients, to hold thousands and thousands of other people's funds, etc. So let's trust them not to cheat.