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Edit: I would truly appreciate a discourse. Simple downvoting provides no feedback. India suffers from this colonial system and unfortunately media takes every

Edit: I would truly appreciate a discourse. Simple downvoting provides no feedback. India suffers from this colonial system and unfortunately media takes every single opportunity. Like recent rape cases. Only case with victim from lower class and culprits from higher class is getting all the media attention. I am not saying it's unnecessary but having a dialog requires honest intentions. Just like BLM these media hype cases don't help. In my 20 years of experience I have seen caste discrimination in villages but not in modern offices. People from all creed and caste work together and progress together. As far as marriages are concerned , how many Europeans marry outside their social class? I would guess not many.

sudosysgen 6y ago
To be fair, classes in Western societies, like lower, middle, upper middle, and upper, are essentially "fake" classes, and have no real definition as well as don't actually fit the generally accepted definition of class in sociology. If you try to do a class analysis of Western capitalist societies, pretty much everyone is of the same class, which is the working class and comprises anyone from foodstore clerk to tech lead. There are at the margins different classes, like the owner class, the landlord class and the destitute class, but those account altogether for less than 10% of society, and actually see a lot of class mobility. So while people tend not to marry in such a way that their income will be drastically reduced, it's not really fair to say that outclass marriage is rare, because it generally isn't, and because western societies are fully proletarized and dominated by the working class, which is actually a good thing in many ways.
puranjay 6y ago
> Only case with victim from lower class and culprits from higher class is getting all the media attention Or maybe it was because of the exceptional brutality of the crime itself, and the shocking behaviour of the police - cremating the body at 2:30AM without the family's approval.
- drieddust 6y ago
  Why police decides to cremated the body should be investigated for sure. But Equally brutal cases have happenned recently with no outrage at all.[1] Sharing it here for argument's sake. Personally I don't like to share these shitty stories usually. [1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/india/balrampur-victim-had-10-injuries-on-body-postmortem-report-6664167/lite/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/india...
  - puranjay 6y ago
    Just because there was no outrage for X doesn't meant here shouldn't be outrage for Y. You can say that the crime has now been politicized, but in a democracy, crimes are always a political matter. I hope that, if nothing else, it leads to law and order becoming a major election issue.
    - drieddust 6y ago
      Rapes are a tragedy and need to be deal above the level of politics. > Just because there was no outrage for X doesn't meant here shouldn't be outrage for Y. Yes it is. What would be your thoughts if you are consistently fined but your neighbor is simply ignored for the same offense. > I hope that, if nothing else, it leads to law and order becoming a major election issue Ofcourse that is the entire story. There is no desire to change the system. For argument sake this will lead to the change in Government, what will change with that? Bringing back SP and Congress will improve the system? UP under SP was a horrible place. These 2 parties have destroy UP over the years. Land of poets is now land of petty criminals. And if this is the intention why spare Rajasthan and Kerala? Change their government also for the same reason. We will be changing Government every other day. Once again I am not against outrage I am against using rape for political gain. But seems like you are ok with it.

sudosysgen 6y ago

To be fair, classes in Western societies, like lower, middle, upper middle, and upper, are essentially "fake" classes, and have no real definition as well as don't actually fit the generally accepted definition of class in sociology. If you try to do a class analysis of Western capitalist societies, pretty much everyone is of the same class, which is the working class and comprises anyone from foodstore clerk to tech lead. There are at the margins different classes, like the owner class, the landlord class and the destitute class, but those account altogether for less than 10% of society, and actually see a lot of class mobility. So while people tend not to marry in such a way that their income will be drastically reduced, it's not really fair to say that outclass marriage is rare, because it generally isn't, and because western societies are fully proletarized and dominated by the working class, which is actually a good thing in many ways.

puranjay 6y ago

> Only case with victim from lower class and culprits from higher class is getting all the media attention Or maybe it was because of the exceptional brutality of the crime itself, and the shocking behaviour of the police - cremating the body at 2:30AM without the family's approval.

drieddust 6y ago
Why police decides to cremated the body should be investigated for sure. But Equally brutal cases have happenned recently with no outrage at all.[1] Sharing it here for argument's sake. Personally I don't like to share these shitty stories usually. [1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/india/balrampur-victim-had-10-injuries-on-body-postmortem-report-6664167/lite/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/indianexpress.com/article/india...
- puranjay 6y ago
  Just because there was no outrage for X doesn't meant here shouldn't be outrage for Y. You can say that the crime has now been politicized, but in a democracy, crimes are always a political matter. I hope that, if nothing else, it leads to law and order becoming a major election issue.
  - drieddust 6y ago
    Rapes are a tragedy and need to be deal above the level of politics. > Just because there was no outrage for X doesn't meant here shouldn't be outrage for Y. Yes it is. What would be your thoughts if you are consistently fined but your neighbor is simply ignored for the same offense. > I hope that, if nothing else, it leads to law and order becoming a major election issue Ofcourse that is the entire story. There is no desire to change the system. For argument sake this will lead to the change in Government, what will change with that? Bringing back SP and Congress will improve the system? UP under SP was a horrible place. These 2 parties have destroy UP over the years. Land of poets is now land of petty criminals. And if this is the intention why spare Rajasthan and Kerala? Change their government also for the same reason. We will be changing Government every other day. Once again I am not against outrage I am against using rape for political gain. But seems like you are ok with it.