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One thing I've had trouble modeling is the apples-to-oranges future value characterization of property in California (and New York, I guess) vs most of the rest
by philsnow 6y ago
One thing I've had trouble modeling is the apples-to-oranges future value characterization of property in California (and New York, I guess) vs most of the rest of the country.
In CA, property values are sky high to begin with and you have to pay property tax on them, but if you buy in certain areas, you stand a fair chance of your property appreciating by 10% or more per year.
Elsewhere (Smalltown USA), property values are 1/10th what they are in those same areas of CA, but you generally can't expect anywhere near the same appreciation on the property.
So what, do you consider the appreciation as "inflow" (vs "income" because it's taxed differently when you sell) and take it into account when you are doing retirement planning? You definitely could, and maybe discount the appreciation by some pessimism factor to account for some possible future situation where housing values get get in half.
For me it's a lot easier to think about if I just live somewhere where a house in 30 years will (inflation adjusted) cost very roughly what it does today.
- burlesona 6y agoThere's also enormous risk embodied in the sky-high real estate prices in CA and NY, namely that they might not continue appreciating, or could even flatten and drop somewhat. The prices in CA are driven by the extraordinary scarcity of housing relative to the demand created by the booming tech industry. Real estate is priced at the margins, and if the tech outflow accelerates it could tip to a new lower baseline relatively quickly (see places like Miami and Las Vegas in 2008). If that happens you risk being underwater by substantial amounts.