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I've completely stopped my donations to Mozilla until they get rid of her CEO and management. They're completely irresponsible, answer to no one, and have total

by Jerry2 6y ago

I've completely stopped my donations to Mozilla until they get rid of her CEO and management. They're completely irresponsible, answer to no one, and have totally screwed up that org by diverting funds to all kinds of nonsense instead of concentrating on delivering a good product. I've also stopped using FF because I've lost confidence in the team managing security of it.

troughway 6y ago
What are you using these days? Brave? /s
- taxcoder 6y ago
  You can use Lynx, Elinks, an Emacs browser, etc. There are other options.
  - ForHackernews 6y ago
    You can't really believe this. Good luck logging into your bank's online portal using Lynx.
    - taxcoder 6y ago
      Believe it? You likely still need a backup browser for things like your example, but the attitude of "There's nothing I can do" annoys me. It's like the non-techies who are suspicious of Google yet refuse to try Firefox with DuckDuckGo.
encom 6y ago
I agree with you, but the only alternative is Chrome. If it comes down to Chrome or nothing, I'm probably just going to quit using the internet and go live in the forest.
- justfortechnews 6y ago
  Use Brave instead of Chrome. There's plenty of other options to use instead of Chrome or FF.
  - vorticalbox 6y ago
    Braves sync has yet to sync a single item from my browser to my phone and its been linked for almost 2 weeks now. Though I am very drawn to ad model it.
    - jonathansampson 6y ago
      Hello, Vortical! I'm Sampson, an engineer working on the Brave project. I'd love to hear more about your experience with Sync, if you wouldn't mind chatting sometime. Check out brave://sync-internals/, where you have the option to explicitly request a sync operation. You can see details there about how many items have transferred between devices too.
      - vorticalbox 6y ago
        My experience with sync has changed a little, brave has now synced some things from my Linux browser, after I set up a new pipeline, to my phone however it has yet to do it again. So new bookmarks and passwords I have created haven't synced. Just checked the page you suggested and passwords are marked as Datatype preconditions not met. Not sure what that means.
dblohm7 6y ago
> I've also stopped using FF because I've lost confidence in the team managing security of it. Would you care to elaborate?
- Jerry2 6y ago
  Take a look at this tweet: https://twitter.com/MichalPurzynski/status/1293220570885062657 https://twitter.com/MichalPurzynski/status/12932205708850626... It should also be noted that Mozilla has the smallest security team of all major web browsers. Apple's Safari and Google's Chrome security teams are an order of magnitude larger than Mozilla's team.
  - dblohm7 6y ago
    (I am a Mozilla employee) Unfortunately that tweet has been misinterpreted and has grown into a false narrative. This is what I know about what happened there: There were two enterprise IT teams with similar duties but different purviews. When management was deciding on layoffs, they decided to unify those two teams. Unfortunately that meant that there were redundancies. My heart goes out to those who lost their jobs, and they have every right to be upset. But the inferences being made as a result of that tweet just aren’t true: this notion that all security teams were wiped out is false. And there are now others assigned to threat management. Furthermore, the security teams that work on Gecko and Firefox were left mostly if not entirely intact. I work on security hardening for Gecko on Android, and I’m still here. So is our entire hardening/sandboxing team: https://twitter.com/gcpascutto/status/1293519587967983616 https://twitter.com/gcpascutto/status/1293519587967983616 TL;DR: Don’t base your understanding of an organization’s capabilities off of one tweet.
    - jacquesm 6y ago
      If a company / organization is unclear about such important things then communications matter and Mozilla's communication skills around the lay-offs have left more than enough room for interpretation. Thank you for correcting the record on this. Gian-Carlo is amazing by the way and gets way too little visibility for the important work he is doing.

by Jerry2 6y ago

troughway 6y ago

What are you using these days? Brave? /s

taxcoder 6y ago
You can use Lynx, Elinks, an Emacs browser, etc. There are other options.
- ForHackernews 6y ago
  You can't really believe this. Good luck logging into your bank's online portal using Lynx.
  - taxcoder 6y ago
    Believe it? You likely still need a backup browser for things like your example, but the attitude of "There's nothing I can do" annoys me. It's like the non-techies who are suspicious of Google yet refuse to try Firefox with DuckDuckGo.

encom 6y ago

I agree with you, but the only alternative is Chrome. If it comes down to Chrome or nothing, I'm probably just going to quit using the internet and go live in the forest.

justfortechnews 6y ago
Use Brave instead of Chrome. There's plenty of other options to use instead of Chrome or FF.
- vorticalbox 6y ago
  Braves sync has yet to sync a single item from my browser to my phone and its been linked for almost 2 weeks now. Though I am very drawn to ad model it.
  - jonathansampson 6y ago
    Hello, Vortical! I'm Sampson, an engineer working on the Brave project. I'd love to hear more about your experience with Sync, if you wouldn't mind chatting sometime. Check out brave://sync-internals/, where you have the option to explicitly request a sync operation. You can see details there about how many items have transferred between devices too.
    - vorticalbox 6y ago
      My experience with sync has changed a little, brave has now synced some things from my Linux browser, after I set up a new pipeline, to my phone however it has yet to do it again. So new bookmarks and passwords I have created haven't synced. Just checked the page you suggested and passwords are marked as Datatype preconditions not met. Not sure what that means.

dblohm7 6y ago

> I've also stopped using FF because I've lost confidence in the team managing security of it. Would you care to elaborate?

Jerry2 6y ago
Take a look at this tweet: https://twitter.com/MichalPurzynski/status/1293220570885062657 https://twitter.com/MichalPurzynski/status/12932205708850626... It should also be noted that Mozilla has the smallest security team of all major web browsers. Apple's Safari and Google's Chrome security teams are an order of magnitude larger than Mozilla's team.
- dblohm7 6y ago
  (I am a Mozilla employee) Unfortunately that tweet has been misinterpreted and has grown into a false narrative. This is what I know about what happened there: There were two enterprise IT teams with similar duties but different purviews. When management was deciding on layoffs, they decided to unify those two teams. Unfortunately that meant that there were redundancies. My heart goes out to those who lost their jobs, and they have every right to be upset. But the inferences being made as a result of that tweet just aren’t true: this notion that all security teams were wiped out is false. And there are now others assigned to threat management. Furthermore, the security teams that work on Gecko and Firefox were left mostly if not entirely intact. I work on security hardening for Gecko on Android, and I’m still here. So is our entire hardening/sandboxing team: https://twitter.com/gcpascutto/status/1293519587967983616 https://twitter.com/gcpascutto/status/1293519587967983616 TL;DR: Don’t base your understanding of an organization’s capabilities off of one tweet.
  - jacquesm 6y ago
    If a company / organization is unclear about such important things then communications matter and Mozilla's communication skills around the lay-offs have left more than enough room for interpretation. Thank you for correcting the record on this. Gian-Carlo is amazing by the way and gets way too little visibility for the important work he is doing.