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This casual tone coming from Mozilla, in a year where they've laid off entire devisions of their business[1] seems a little out of touch. I think they have a lo

This casual tone coming from Mozilla, in a year where they've laid off entire devisions of their business[1] seems a little out of touch. I think they have a lot of work to do in repairing their brand, and showing their core following that they can be trusted. I think Mozilla might need a little bit of self-love. [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-lays-off-250-employees-while-it-refocuses-on-commercial-products/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/mozilla-lays-off-250-employees...

zimablue 6y ago
Companies which are run for good intentions are often hard to work for, pay less etc. You can view it through the lense of employee as consumer - if people are likely to agree with the moral mission of the company, they're likely to be willing to work for less wages. It's weirdly common and makes no sense to me this line of argument, I've seen independent newspapers attacked for paying less than (evil) big media companies. The devil pays well! That's the deal! Good guys can't/don't because they're trying to venture outside the huge raw capitalistic currents, and the employee-consumer effect. Ironically companies trying to do good which do pay well then get attacked for their profligacy with limited resources. Underneath all this (especially on a still semi-elite tech site) I think a (societal) system with big problems pushing people into complicity creates a compulsion to attack anyone seemingly slightly nobler in their mission, in an to quash pervasive cognitive dissonance.
- hetspookjee 6y ago
  I find it really interesting as well. CEOs of large NGOs often get attacked for their 500k salaries, which is a senior SWE salary at a FAANG. I think it is because people just really hate hypocrites almost more than anything. If you plea the good cause, and you dare to deviate from that path, it's just a matter of time for the moral fashion to blow in your face. Another thing is that if you plea the good cause, you draw the ire of the people with an activist nature, while if you don't, you're just like all the others.
e737eyrhehrh 6y ago
Seems like the opposite honestly, their core following blows and can't be relied on to save them. Now that they're focusing on the times again Firefox is the best browser on Android for anyone who cares about a sane mobile ui or reliable core features like dark mode and ad-blocking. If it were up to the core audience we'd still be trapped on the desktop as the world gravitates more and more towards mobile.

zimablue 6y ago

Companies which are run for good intentions are often hard to work for, pay less etc. You can view it through the lense of employee as consumer - if people are likely to agree with the moral mission of the company, they're likely to be willing to work for less wages. It's weirdly common and makes no sense to me this line of argument, I've seen independent newspapers attacked for paying less than (evil) big media companies. The devil pays well! That's the deal! Good guys can't/don't because they're trying to venture outside the huge raw capitalistic currents, and the employee-consumer effect. Ironically companies trying to do good which do pay well then get attacked for their profligacy with limited resources. Underneath all this (especially on a still semi-elite tech site) I think a (societal) system with big problems pushing people into complicity creates a compulsion to attack anyone seemingly slightly nobler in their mission, in an to quash pervasive cognitive dissonance.

hetspookjee 6y ago
I find it really interesting as well. CEOs of large NGOs often get attacked for their 500k salaries, which is a senior SWE salary at a FAANG. I think it is because people just really hate hypocrites almost more than anything. If you plea the good cause, and you dare to deviate from that path, it's just a matter of time for the moral fashion to blow in your face. Another thing is that if you plea the good cause, you draw the ire of the people with an activist nature, while if you don't, you're just like all the others.

e737eyrhehrh 6y ago

Seems like the opposite honestly, their core following blows and can't be relied on to save them. Now that they're focusing on the times again Firefox is the best browser on Android for anyone who cares about a sane mobile ui or reliable core features like dark mode and ad-blocking. If it were up to the core audience we'd still be trapped on the desktop as the world gravitates more and more towards mobile.