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I don't understand the question. Just make it illegal. That's the legal grounds. Are you asking for a court precedent or something? IANAL. I assure you that if

I don't understand the question. Just make it illegal. That's the legal grounds. Are you asking for a court precedent or something? IANAL. I assure you that if there was a federal popular vote question for "should airlines be able to advertise to you on the airplane where you can't turn them off after you paids 100s of dollars for a ticket?" there would be a unanimous NO.

sokoloff 6y ago
> I don't understand the question. Just make it illegal. That's the legal grounds. Are there other types of private speech you would like to make illegal?
- tedunangst 6y ago
  I would like to make it illegal to clutter up HN threads with off topic comments.
  - sokoloff 6y ago
    Apologies if I did not leave the dots close enough that it seemed off-topic. In the US (which regulates all the air carriers mentioned by name in the article), the First Amendment presents a high hurdle to government prohibition of speech. In a subthread on the legal standing for a proposed ban on advertising/solicitation in flight, that hurdle seems significant and certainly relevant to me.
    - jkinudsjknds 6y ago
      having an ad channel is free speech. Making the ad unable to be turned off is forcing you to listen.
- bluntfang 6y ago
  Yes, let's just do the whole advertising industry. If you pay for a service, it is illegal to solicit advertisements to your customers.
  - calvano915 6y ago
    > Yes, let's just do the whole advertising industry. If you pay for a service, it is illegal to solicit advertisements to your customers. Or perhaps require opt-in be offered (like the discount Kindle with ads on screen while sleeping).
joncrane 6y ago
If there was a federal popular vote, the airlines would spend millions and millions on ads, op-ed pieces, and social media engagement farms to try to get people to vote in their favor. Given the current climate, I think they'd have a pretty good chance of being successful.

sokoloff 6y ago

> I don't understand the question. Just make it illegal. That's the legal grounds. Are there other types of private speech you would like to make illegal?

tedunangst 6y ago
I would like to make it illegal to clutter up HN threads with off topic comments.
- sokoloff 6y ago
  Apologies if I did not leave the dots close enough that it seemed off-topic. In the US (which regulates all the air carriers mentioned by name in the article), the First Amendment presents a high hurdle to government prohibition of speech. In a subthread on the legal standing for a proposed ban on advertising/solicitation in flight, that hurdle seems significant and certainly relevant to me.
  - jkinudsjknds 6y ago
    having an ad channel is free speech. Making the ad unable to be turned off is forcing you to listen.
bluntfang 6y ago
Yes, let's just do the whole advertising industry. If you pay for a service, it is illegal to solicit advertisements to your customers.
- calvano915 6y ago
  > Yes, let's just do the whole advertising industry. If you pay for a service, it is illegal to solicit advertisements to your customers. Or perhaps require opt-in be offered (like the discount Kindle with ads on screen while sleeping).

joncrane 6y ago

If there was a federal popular vote, the airlines would spend millions and millions on ads, op-ed pieces, and social media engagement farms to try to get people to vote in their favor. Given the current climate, I think they'd have a pretty good chance of being successful.