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When you engage in the decision-making process, you learn, and sometimes get completely lost. When you rely on something to make choices for you, you don't lea

When you engage in the decision-making process, you learn, and sometimes get completely lost. When you rely on something to make choices for you, you don't learn but you are never lost. I'm not disagreeing, just wondering which outcome people prefer.

irishsultan 6y ago
> When you rely on something to make choices for you, you don't learn but you are never lost. Unless of course suddenly whatever you're relying on turns out to be unreliable.
reificator 6y ago
> When you rely on something to make choices for you, you don't learn but you are never lost. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_GPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_GPS * https://www.theregister.com/2012/12/12/another_apple_maps_mess_in_mount_isa/ https://www.theregister.com/2012/12/12/another_apple_maps_me... Following the GPS will not get you lost in the vast majority of situations, unless you then lose signal or your GPS encounters a technical problem. However if it does get you lost, you will be substantially more lost than if you had not relied on it. N.B. I'm only objecting to the finality of the statement, I don't think you're going to get lost in most cases with a GPS.
Frost1x 6y ago
I'm not entirely sure if having something or someone else manage the decision making process avoids getting lost. You may pass some responsibility for your journey (literally or metaphorically) off to something/someone else (the decision maker), but you absolutely can still get lost. For the GPS example, it's completely possible depending on the system to drift into an area without data access or precached maps. Your device you're reliant on could break. Addresses could be correct or mapping could be incorrect. Your device could lose power. You followed the directions from the decision and its "not your fault" but you are none-the-less, lost. Often in our society, when the decision maker is at fault, its those executing the decision who still takes responsibility and ultimately have to fix or deal with the decision, regardless of the quality of the decision. I conclude, it's far better to be part of the decision making process, even if you're just executing the result. Not only do you often have more context to better inform the decision making process, as the one executing the decision, you also have some say in the direction of your future.
6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago
I have a friend who always relies on not just phone maps, but also phone directions (turn left now), and gets helplessly lost downtown where GPS is unreliable. It's less binary than your breakdown.
- nubbins 6y ago
  I used to use google maps as just a GPS rather than navigation instructions. I've since found it is most helpful to use navigation in major cities because the directions are so much more complicated and the consequences for a single wrong turn can be huge time in traffic.

irishsultan 6y ago

> When you rely on something to make choices for you, you don't learn but you are never lost. Unless of course suddenly whatever you're relying on turns out to be unreliable.

reificator 6y ago

> When you rely on something to make choices for you, you don't learn but you are never lost. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_GPS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_GPS * https://www.theregister.com/2012/12/12/another_apple_maps_mess_in_mount_isa/ https://www.theregister.com/2012/12/12/another_apple_maps_me... Following the GPS will not get you lost in the vast majority of situations, unless you then lose signal or your GPS encounters a technical problem. However if it does get you lost, you will be substantially more lost than if you had not relied on it. N.B. I'm only objecting to the finality of the statement, I don't think you're going to get lost in most cases with a GPS.

Frost1x 6y ago

I'm not entirely sure if having something or someone else manage the decision making process avoids getting lost. You may pass some responsibility for your journey (literally or metaphorically) off to something/someone else (the decision maker), but you absolutely can still get lost. For the GPS example, it's completely possible depending on the system to drift into an area without data access or precached maps. Your device you're reliant on could break. Addresses could be correct or mapping could be incorrect. Your device could lose power. You followed the directions from the decision and its "not your fault" but you are none-the-less, lost. Often in our society, when the decision maker is at fault, its those executing the decision who still takes responsibility and ultimately have to fix or deal with the decision, regardless of the quality of the decision. I conclude, it's far better to be part of the decision making process, even if you're just executing the result. Not only do you often have more context to better inform the decision making process, as the one executing the decision, you also have some say in the direction of your future.

6gvONxR4sf7o 6y ago

I have a friend who always relies on not just phone maps, but also phone directions (turn left now), and gets helplessly lost downtown where GPS is unreliable. It's less binary than your breakdown.

nubbins 6y ago
I used to use google maps as just a GPS rather than navigation instructions. I've since found it is most helpful to use navigation in major cities because the directions are so much more complicated and the consequences for a single wrong turn can be huge time in traffic.